ANDREW SULLIVAN: Hitler? He’s not half as bad as Bush

The Sunday Times ^ | April 6, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

[MadIvan]

The suicidal tendencies of the left will not allow its saner elements even to speak.

Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

Bump!

[Pokey78]

Pinging Sullivan list.

[Mitchell]

Ping.

[ckilmer]

actually de genova has done a good job of representing Mexican public opinion.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24365-2003Apr3.html
however, when you read de genova's writing its clear that what he wants is to break up the usa and either give parts to Mexico or have them form their own countries.

de genova is against the war because the war is igniting american patriotism and unity which tends to thwart the ambitions of the latins who are pushing for the reconquista agenda.

[patriot5186]

Liberalism cannot co-exist with terror or totalitarianism
Or common sense, or patriotism, or the truth.

[headsonpikes]

We can hope they will move towards the light.

Liberals, possibly; marxists, no.

The marxists wouldn't want to spoil a perfect record of being wrong every time.

[BossLady]

"and show that the liberal West is prepared to sacrifice and invest to make Iraq a new model for that part of the world, then we will have made a critical start towards a new world."

'liberal west'......hmmmmmmm.....

[Britton J Wingfield]

BTTT

[Capt. Jake]

bttt

[BunnySlippers]

Good. Bump.

[citizen]

I don't quite understand the context of the title but it's a good article.

Death to mindless partisanship.

[AgThorn]

great read!!! mega bumps!!

[TenaciousZ]

"I don't understand some of these antiwar protesters ... Everybody in the world is 'Hitler.' Bush is 'Hitler,' Ashcroft is 'Hitler,' Rumsfeld is 'Hitler.' The only guy who isn't 'Hitler' is the foreign guy with the mustache dropping people who disagree with him into the wood chipper." -- Dennis Miller on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, April 3, 2003

[Cicero]

There's an interesting history behind the madness of the left. In London around the time of the Russian revolution, all of the progressives favored British imperialism, because they thought it lifted backward races up toward civilization and helped bring them into the future. I know this in part because some of my English ancestors were progressives in London, and in fact one of them went to the Soviet Union after the revolution.

That was generally true until the Soviet Union started backing nationalist independence movements as a means of undermining the West, after the Second World War.

At that time, anticolonialism became the new leftist dogma. And so it has been ever since. In other words, Stalin taught the left to love African and Arab dictators and tyrants. Naturally the left all saluted their great master and obeyed. In effect, they are still obeying Stalin.

[babyface00]

Once upon a time, the term "liberal" refered to a point of view that was based on freedom, open-mindedness, and respect for the individual and his/her beliefs.

That time passed long ago.

The viewpoints which were once admirable in Liberals are now the domain of Conservatives. Liberal has come to reflect the mindset of those who are statists, marxists, reactionaries. Sure, they still throw around a lot of the words to make them think they hold the old beliefs, but when you look at the causes they champion, the "solutions" they offer, and the rhetoric they spew, it all comes down to the same things:

The supremacy of the state over the individual
Domination of the elite over the masses
Wealth redistribution from the prosperous to the easily-influenced.
Elimination of dissent through whatever means necessary.

This is the new left. This is what it means to be liberal today.

Its all for our own good, of course.

[celmak]

Good liberals, as they did in the 1930s, should not shy away from confronting this new fascism.

In fact the commies (the LIberals of the time) did not speak out until Germany invaded Poland.

[Paleo Conservative]

He also saw that the liberal fig leaf — the way in which leftists could absolve themselves of responsibility for the Iraqi horror — was just a fig leaf. I refer to the United Nations, a body that sat by and watched as genocide cut through hundreds of thousands in Bosnia and Kosovo and Rwanda and did nothing, a body that has Libya chair its commission on human rights.

Even before that in Cambodia.