The suicidal tendencies of the left will not allow its saner elements even to speak.
Regards, Ivan
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04/05/2003 3:14:19 PM PST by
MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on
04/05/2003 3:14:32 PM PST by
MadIvan
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Pinging Sullivan list.
3 posted on
04/05/2003 3:18:05 PM PST by
Pokey78
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Ping.
4 posted on
04/05/2003 3:23:39 PM PST by
Mitchell
To: MadIvan
Liberalism cannot co-exist with terror or totalitarianism
Or common sense, or patriotism, or the truth.
To: MadIvan
We can hope they will move towards the light.
Liberals, possibly; marxists, no.
The marxists wouldn't want to spoil a perfect record of being wrong every time.
To: MadIvan
"and show that the liberal West is prepared to sacrifice and invest to make Iraq a new model for that part of the world, then we will have made a critical start towards a new world."
'liberal west'......hmmmmmmm.....
8 posted on
04/05/2003 3:34:24 PM PST by
BossLady
(MEANWHILE IN HELL.....Only a handful of fiery virgins left ...rock bottom prices....98% off.....)
To: MadIvan
BTTT
To: MadIvan
Good. Bump.
To: MadIvan
I don't quite understand the context of the title but it's a good article.
Death to mindless partisanship.
12 posted on
04/05/2003 3:40:04 PM PST by
citizen
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
To: MadIvan
great read!!! mega bumps!!
13 posted on
04/05/2003 3:41:47 PM PST by
AgThorn
(Continue to pray for our Troops!!)
To: MadIvan
"I don't understand some of these antiwar protesters ... Everybody in the world is 'Hitler.' Bush is 'Hitler,' Ashcroft is 'Hitler,' Rumsfeld is 'Hitler.' The only guy who isn't 'Hitler' is the foreign guy with the mustache dropping people who disagree with him into the wood chipper." -- Dennis Miller on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, April 3, 2003
To: MadIvan
There's an interesting history behind the madness of the left. In London around the time of the Russian revolution, all of the progressives favored British imperialism, because they thought it lifted backward races up toward civilization and helped bring them into the future. I know this in part because some of my English ancestors were progressives in London, and in fact one of them went to the Soviet Union after the revolution.
That was generally true until the Soviet Union started backing nationalist independence movements as a means of undermining the West, after the Second World War.
At that time, anticolonialism became the new leftist dogma. And so it has been ever since. In other words, Stalin taught the left to love African and Arab dictators and tyrants. Naturally the left all saluted their great master and obeyed. In effect, they are still obeying Stalin.
15 posted on
04/05/2003 3:48:01 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: MadIvan
Once upon a time, the term "liberal" refered to a point of view that was based on freedom, open-mindedness, and respect for the individual and his/her beliefs.
That time passed long ago.
The viewpoints which were once admirable in Liberals are now the domain of Conservatives. Liberal has come to reflect the mindset of those who are statists, marxists, reactionaries. Sure, they still throw around a lot of the words to make them think they hold the old beliefs, but when you look at the causes they champion, the "solutions" they offer, and the rhetoric they spew, it all comes down to the same things:
The supremacy of the state over the individual
Domination of the elite over the masses
Wealth redistribution from the prosperous to the easily-influenced.
Elimination of dissent through whatever means necessary.
This is the new left. This is what it means to be liberal today.
Its all for our own good, of course.
To: MadIvan
Good liberals, as they did in the 1930s, should not shy away from confronting this new fascism.
In fact the commies (the LIberals of the time) did not speak out until Germany invaded Poland.
17 posted on
04/05/2003 3:50:26 PM PST by
celmak
To: MadIvan
He also saw that the liberal fig leaf the way in which leftists could absolve themselves of responsibility for the Iraqi horror was just a fig leaf. I refer to the United Nations, a body that sat by and watched as genocide cut through hundreds of thousands in Bosnia and Kosovo and Rwanda and did nothing, a body that has Libya chair its commission on human rights. Even before that in Cambodia.
To: MadIvan
With that headline ..
"Hitler? He's Not half as Bad as Bush!"
... I thought it might be an article by Jeremy Paxman of BBC.
Did anyone else happen to see today's BBC "Bush Bash"? Paxman equated Bush with a wacked out Christian fundamentalist seeking Armageddon. One of those "end of timers".
Can someone tell Paxman that Bush is a METHODIST! In the good old USA that's not "fundamentalist", that's about as stodgy and traditional as one can get.
21 posted on
04/05/2003 4:00:49 PM PST by
InspiredPath1
(but, then again, what the hell do I know)
To: MadIvan
Great article!
22 posted on
04/05/2003 4:10:10 PM PST by
wimpycat
('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: MadIvan
Likewise, the roots of Islamism in the early years of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood are also directly linked to the fascist movements in 20th century Europe. A man like Bin Laden is a classic western figure, educated in the West, with a vast fortune built on western oil trade, and methods that have far more to do with Stalin than with Islamic tradition.
Mr. Sullivan could benefit from a bit more study of Wahhabism and the life of Mohamed Ibn Abd-al-Wahab. Islamism is completely Middle Eastern and has found friends from within the decadent liberal cancers inflicting western democracies.
I found this to be just another example of self-hating liberal apology on his part. Give credit where credit is due Mr. Sullivan. The Middle East is capable of its own forms of fascism without the help of western civilization. To avoid this truth is both racist and folly. Ironic that Sullivan would accuse others of that which he has done so well here.
To: MadIvan
Another right-on direct hit by Andrew Sullivan.
28 posted on
04/05/2003 4:53:52 PM PST by
Jorge
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