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1 posted on 04/03/2003 9:28:14 PM PST by newyorkronin
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I used to watch combat. As I kid I thought the M-14 was the greatest looking weapon. Then one day I'm walking though a gun show and there one was. I couldn't wait to pick it up. I asked permission and picked this sucker up. I nearly fell over. It was a very heavy weapon. I had held comparable weapons. By comparision it was by far the heaviest. All of a sudden those years of thinking I wanted to own one left me instantly.
2 posted on 04/03/2003 9:34:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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Sounds like a typical internet legend to me.

Why you think this is "news" with all the real stuff going on in the world is beyond me.

Isn't there a "gunnuts.com" or someplace else where most people would actually care?
3 posted on 04/03/2003 9:36:59 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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Bang.
4 posted on 04/03/2003 9:38:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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They would have to waive the '86 ban on registering "new" full autos on the NFR. M14s are classified as machineguns. They could make a nice sum on the weapons though.
6 posted on 04/03/2003 9:43:10 PM PST by Kadric
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Signed
8 posted on 04/03/2003 9:44:39 PM PST by Mr_Magoo (Single, available, and easy)
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Just signed it .... I'd LOVE to get one of these puppies :)
17 posted on 04/03/2003 10:16:59 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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is the clinton legacy,M-14,M-1 garands and 45 colts.
28 posted on 04/03/2003 10:28:35 PM PST by green team 1999
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Signed, bumped.
31 posted on 04/03/2003 10:37:09 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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bump
41 posted on 04/04/2003 1:36:08 AM PST by Cacique
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A bit of a Relic looking thing. Sure doubt I'd want to buy one. Did sign the petition though. It bothers me to see totally good machinery junked. Plus they can actually Make money with this program.
48 posted on 04/04/2003 6:39:51 AM PST by Joined2Justify (Smoke screens were build by the Oil Burners)
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The Clinton Administration spent millions of dollars on machinery whose sole purpose was to destroy M-14s!

I have wanted one since I carried one through Basic and AIT in 1965!

53 posted on 04/04/2003 9:14:08 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To add to the mix.

The basic fighting unit in the USMC, in 1962, was the "Fire Team". It consisted of four Marines. The senior ranking Marine was the fire team leader. Three of the Marines carried an M1 and one carred a BAR. The M14 came along, Fire Team, then carried 3 M14's semi-auto and one M14 with a full auto selector switch. I still maintain that the better mix was the M1 - BAR Fire Team. What my Corps did when the spray and pray M16 came along I don't know.

Our military and especally the USMC is very well known in training for the last war fought. Our last major war was Nam. The M16 was great for short range, can't see who you are shooting at, spray the bushes fighting. If I was so fortunate to be over in Iraq I would be begging or picking up a good long range heavy caliber weapon. A bunch of Marine Grunts with M1's or M14's could keep the Iraqui troops 600 or more yards away with hardly any effort.

86 posted on 04/04/2003 10:24:00 AM PST by Flint
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Under the 1986 amendment to the '68 GCA, the M-14 can't be sold to civilians because any full auto firearm not registered under NFA rules before that date can't be registered. But it is moronic for the gubbermint to scrap perfectly good parts that could be sold to gun manufacturers to offset some of the original cost of the rifles. There are large gun parts dealers who would buy the barrels and stocks, and probably many of the small parts that are not part of the recievers. Since the M-14 is basically just a modified M1, I'm pretty sure many of the parts could be used as replacement parts for the many tens of thousands of surplus M1s that were sold through the CMP.

The recievers are considered to be firearms so they couldn't be sold on the civilian market. But it still seems stupid to me to destroy finely machined recievers that could still be valuable to someone, or possibly sold on the international military arms market. Typical gubbermint mismanagement and waste of tax money.

I once worked with a WWII vet who was stationed at an airfield in China when the war ended. His unit was ordered to destroy any and all weapons on the base rather than fly them out. He said he almost cried watching crates of brand new .45 pistols and MI carbines dumped on concrete runways where they were run over and mangled by a bulldozer. They broke up tons of airplane parts and engines, and cut up hundreds of .50 caliber Browning MG barrels that were intended to replace shot out barrel on their bombers. They also parked an entire fleet of brand new REO dump trucks at the field to be burned by the last crew to leave.

Why would we destroy weapons and equipment that could easily have been given to the Nationalist Chinese to fight Mao's communist army? It almost makes one wonder which side the Democratic Truman administration was on. (Actually it doesn't make me wonder, I know whose side they were on and it wasn't the Nationalists)

88 posted on 04/04/2003 10:35:59 AM PST by epow
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Happily signed that petition.

Thanks,

Mike

94 posted on 04/04/2003 11:20:20 AM PST by BCR #226
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I'll take two.
103 posted on 04/04/2003 11:57:31 AM PST by oyez (I don't know but I been told.)
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They shoot guns, don't they?
109 posted on 04/04/2003 12:59:12 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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Done - thanks for this one.
110 posted on 04/04/2003 1:02:01 PM PST by lodwick (Pray for America)
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