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1 posted on 04/03/2003 1:20:18 PM PST by kattracks
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A chest wound? A guy sleeping with his gun loaded is one thing, but to get hit in the chest by accident??
2 posted on 04/03/2003 1:22:35 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican (Arm Up! They Have!)
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A sleeping U.S. Marine was killed by his gun in central Iraq when the weapon accidentally discharged, the U.S. military said on Thursday.

Sorry, but M16's/pistols don't just get up in the middle of the night and go off. Beside, it is not a gun in the military. It is called a WEAPON! Stupid press.

3 posted on 04/03/2003 1:23:38 PM PST by RetiredArmy
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Exhausted from battle and days of bad weather; God rest his soul. Semper Fi.
4 posted on 04/03/2003 1:24:59 PM PST by dandelion
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This is unfortunate. Let's just hope some paranoid safety officer doesn't decide that "for their own good" everyone needs to unload their weapons every night.
5 posted on 04/03/2003 1:25:15 PM PST by Aerohawk
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He died defending this country, nontheless.
6 posted on 04/03/2003 1:25:58 PM PST by yonif
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God rest his soul and watch over his family. This is heartbreaking.
10 posted on 04/03/2003 1:29:08 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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"The Marine died honourably in the service of His country"

Enough said.

12 posted on 04/03/2003 1:30:18 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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I'm not familiar with the SAW - it came into service just as I was leaving.

Does it fire from an open bolt? Most machineguns do (to reduce the risk of cookoff).

If so, a slipped sear means a discharge. This may mean that despite my general disdain for the term "accidental discharge", (they are almost always better termed "negligent discharge"), this may actually be an accident.

Most "accidental" discharges involve someone pulling the trigger - this would not have.

The only "safe" way to handle an open-bolt firearm is to close the bolt on an empty chamber. But to not do that in a combat area is a reasonable choice after balancing the risks, not the act of negligence it would be in other circumstances.

14 posted on 04/03/2003 1:31:26 PM PST by jdege
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I don't know much about weapons like this, but didn't it have a safety? I can understand sleeping with a loaded weapon in a combat zone, but this accident seems preventable.

In any event, how tragic, indeed. God rest his immortal soul. He's still a hero in my book.

19 posted on 04/03/2003 1:35:01 PM PST by PackerBoy
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That warrior may have been so exausted from sleep deprivation that he unknowingly let the weapon slip into an unsafe position.

See you at the gates Marine, Semper Fi.

20 posted on 04/03/2003 1:35:21 PM PST by Ajnin
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RIP, Marine.

SAW...
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249.htm
21 posted on 04/03/2003 1:37:16 PM PST by glock rocks (pray for our men and women in harm's way -- God bless America)
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Hmm. First thought is a suicide, but who knows...
22 posted on 04/03/2003 1:37:45 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
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"The Marine died honourably in the service of his country"

Prayers for him and his family. God Bless

28 posted on 04/03/2003 1:51:01 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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The press should have the decency to not report this story. It makes the poor guy look like an idiot. Note how they left out the details of how this guy had try to get two hours of sleep after staying awake for the last 36 jammed into the back of an amtrack with 14 other Marines and all their gear.
35 posted on 04/03/2003 2:34:19 PM PST by SENTINEL (Proud USMC Gulf War Grunt !)
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R.I.P marine.
37 posted on 04/03/2003 2:39:33 PM PST by anymouse
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With apologies to those that might be offended, this might be a polite way to explain away a suicide... it's not uncommon, in the field, when a young man is far away from home, and is stressed and overtired... and especially if he happened to get a Dear John or other bad news. The military doesn't like to classify deaths as suicides....they tend to become contagious in a military unit, and it calls the effectiveness of the leadership into question also. This was suggested to me by a friend and it certainly is a possibility.

38 posted on 04/03/2003 2:44:38 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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3 yrs 82dAbn., shoot on a regular basis (~5000 rounds 45 acp alone previous summer) and I still managed to put a bullet into myself.

Kid was tired, stressed...How many things like this happened at Tarawa/Iwo/Saipan that we never heard about?

Anybody who mocks this marine can Kilo Mike Alpha.

God rest his soul.

39 posted on 04/03/2003 2:44:40 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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The less said the better.

He served our country to his dying day.

Come to think of it, if someone carved "He served our country to his dying day." on my tombstone it would be just fine with me.

40 posted on 04/03/2003 7:53:34 PM PST by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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Here's how it could have happened.
The article says nothing about sleeping in a tent or sleeping bag. The Marine could have fallen asleep in a sitting position with the 249 between his legs. His legs could have started to stretch out and that puts the muzzle to the chest area. His hand could have slipped off of his knee to hit the trigger.

Pure conjecture and wild *ss guess.
41 posted on 04/03/2003 8:25:55 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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HOLD MUH RIFLE AWAY FROM MUH CHEST WHEN I SLEEP ALERT!
46 posted on 04/04/2003 6:34:49 AM PST by goldstategop
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