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POW Jessica was tortured
New York Daily News ^ | 4/03/02 | MAKI BECKER

Posted on 04/03/2003 1:34:43 AM PST by kattracks

Tip from Iraqi led to hospital room

Jessica was being tortured.

That was the urgent word from an Iraqi man who alerted U.S. troops where to find Pfc. Jessica Lynch - and her injuries seem to bear out the allegation.

Lynch, who was flown to a military hospital in Germany yesterday, had her legs broken, one arm broken and at least one bullet wound, officials said.

The 19-year-old West Virginia private was able to call her parents yesterday for the first time since her rescue Tuesday. She was in good spirits but very hungry, her parents told CNN.

The rescue of Lynch, who was driving a water truck when she went missing after a March 23 ambush in Nassiriya, had added urgency when one of two tips to Americans said she was in danger.

One tip came when an English-speaking Iraqi man approached NBC reporter Kerry Sanders to tell him about the soldier being held captive.

"Please make sure the people in charge know that she's being tortured," he told Sanders.

Belying her country-girl smile and petite 5-foot-5 frame, Lynch put up a Rambo-worthy fight when her unit, the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Co., came under attack, according to a new report.

Lynch opened fire on the Iraqi assailants, picking them off one by one until she ran out of ammunition, according to today's Washington Post.

She continued shooting - even after she was shot and stabbed and her unit members were killed all around her.

"She was fighting to the death," a U.S. official told The Post. "She did not want to be taken alive."

Yesterday, when Lynch was plucked from Saddam Hospital, Special Forces troops found a soldier in pain.

Her broken bones are a sure sign of torture, said Amy Waters Yarsinske, an ex-Navy intelligence officer and an expert on POW treatment.

"It's awfully hard to break both legs and an arm in a truck accident," Yarsinske said.

Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's thugs are known to use steel bars to bash their prisoners' limbs, she said.

"In the first gulf action, they tried breaking their [captured U.S. airmen's] legs with steel bars," Yarsinske said.

Another clue that Lynch and other POWs were being tortured came Friday, when Marines raided a hospital near Nassiriya where other members of Lynch's unit were videotaped and later shown on Iraqi TV. Marines found at least one shredded woman's uniform spattered with blood and the name patch torn off. In addition to Lynch, two other female soldiers went missing after the ambush.

In one hospital room, Marines discovered a car battery next to a bed - a possible electrical shock torture chamber.

During the last Persian Gulf War, Iraqis attached wires to one American POW's jaw and shocked him, Yarsinske said.

An Iraqi pharmacist who works at Saddam Hospital told Britain's Sky TV he treated Lynch's leg injuries. He added: "Every day I saw her crying about wanting to go home."

The pharmacist, who gave his name only as Imad, said Lynch knew U.S. troops were on the other side of the Euphrates River, and "kept wondering if the American Army were coming to save her."

Lynch's hometown of Palestine, W.Va., continued its celebration of her recovery yesterday.

Her brother, Gregory Jr., who is also in the Army, told CNN his sister sounded "disoriented" when she phoned home. "Her voice was crackly and low. She sounded like she was sick."

West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise stopped by the Lynch's home yesterday and told her parents that their daughter, who had joined the Army to pay for college so she could become a kindergarten teacher, would not have to worry about tuition.

"There will be a full scholarship for her whenever she wants to go for college," he promised.

With News Wire Services

TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqifreedom; jessicalynch; nbc; torture; warcrimes
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1 posted on 04/03/2003 1:34:43 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Doesn't surprise me. Not one bit.

Now...are we starting to see what needs to be done about is-slime?

2 posted on 04/03/2003 1:37:00 AM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: neutrino
Some of us have known this fact for years...let it begen.
3 posted on 04/03/2003 1:37:57 AM PST by seeker41
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To: neutrino
That is one tough girl!
4 posted on 04/03/2003 1:38:12 AM PST by cateizgr8
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5 posted on 04/03/2003 1:38:31 AM PST by seeker41
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To: kattracks
I can't help but wonder why we allow these young girls to be sent to the front lines like this. Those sleazy Iraqis are known for rape, brutality, etc. There's also a black lady, to the best of my knowledge who's a POW. Somehow this just doesn't seem right.

6 posted on 04/03/2003 1:41:41 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: seeker41
May God bless the one that notified the reporter about her.
8 posted on 04/03/2003 1:45:47 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: kattracks
I hope scum like Dershowitz who suggested we use torture read this article. Just say no to torture. That is, my friend, why we are better than you.
9 posted on 04/03/2003 1:49:48 AM PST by bucephalus (Say No to Torture! Boycott BBC)
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10 posted on 04/03/2003 1:51:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
God bless her
11 posted on 04/03/2003 1:53:48 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: bucephalus
I don't know what Dershowitz said, but just to play Devil's Advocate, let me point out that there's a difference between extracting information and sadism. The Iraqis appear to be mostly sadists. Perhaps they need a little in return.
13 posted on 04/03/2003 2:00:50 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: cateizgr8
Her resistance to the enemy was heroic. I hope her torturers were spattered all over the walls by the Rangers and Seals who rescued her. God bless our heroes.
14 posted on 04/03/2003 2:01:53 AM PST by NetValue (You betcha Iraq was "involved" in 9/11 and the anthrax mailings)
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To: kattracks
I bring this up with all respect to all women in and out of the service and with all seriousness.

We now have brave women like her in combat or near combat and as seen they can be captured and be put under unspeakable horrors.

If she was violated, how do we who believe in the sanctity of all life deal with a pregnancy which may result?

Again this is with all respect and this thread may not be the place to discuss this. If this has been discussed before maybe I can be pointed to that thread.
15 posted on 04/03/2003 2:03:44 AM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: kattracks
All our Jessica are back to base!
16 posted on 04/03/2003 2:04:16 AM PST by Professional
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To: PLMerite
". . . there's a difference between extracting information and sadism."

Thanks for highlighting this point. It's something I haven't been able to decide on. Are they really different or only qualitatively so? Appreciate any thoughts from anybody on this.

17 posted on 04/03/2003 2:06:19 AM PST by bucephalus (Page DuBois says the western notion of truth comes from the Greek use of torture)
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To: bucephalus
This topic was much written about last year re: the AQ and Taliban detainees. Most of the experts I read about agreed that torture wasn't particularly effective in obtaining RELIABLE information. Eventually most people will just tell their interrogators whatever they think they want to hear to make it stop. And then you have the hard cases who will die before they'll talk.

Evidently there are other, psychological methods to extract information that are both more humane and more effective. At least that seems to be the consensus of most of the intelligence types I've seen talking about it.
18 posted on 04/03/2003 2:16:21 AM PST by kms61
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To: bucephalus
It's something I haven't been able to decide on. Are they really different or only qualitatively so?

I think one has to weigh the situation and consider each case existentially. Let's say you capture someone and you know she has knowledge of where a suitcase nuke is located in a large American city, and you know she knows when it is set to detonate. I believe in that case, the end justifies the means. Our morality should never be used against us!

Shades of gray occur when you don't know if the person knows something "interesting." Or when what the person knows is of tactical relevance. I don't think I can approve of torture unless there is some sense that the captive's knowlege can save many lives.

On the battlefield, I think we should strive to operate under the terms of the Geneva conventions. I emphasize strive. Troops should be well-versed in the rules, and should be supervised and held accountable for their mistakes. The question of what accountable means would be up to a jury of their peers.

When we think about the bravery of our troops, remember, they each know that sadistic torture is waiting for them regardless of what they can supply their captors. This deepens my appreciation for their service.

In case I haven't been clear, I believe we should avoid torture under almost all circumstances. Resorting to torture for tactical reasons, especially given the fact that we're the invading army in Iraq (in this case), would be quite unforgivable. It would also pitch us off of the higher moral ground we so much need as we try to engage the population. These opposing forces are their sons and brothers.

In the end, I think we have to decide what is least distressing for our consciences.

20 posted on 04/03/2003 2:30:52 AM PST by risk (Never forget.)
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