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Lynch Shot Iraqi Soldiers
The Washington Post ^ | April 3, 2003 | Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb

Posted on 04/02/2003 7:40:30 PM PST by John H K

Pfc. Jessica Lynch, rescued Tuesday from an Iraqi hospital, fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers after Iraqi forces ambushed the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition, U.S. officials said yesterday.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; iraq; iraqifreedom; jessicalynch; lynch; opuslist; war
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To: Kevin Curry
It seems to me PFC Lynch was in a proper role as a supply clerk. If she did fight in the manner suggested, I applaud her courage and grit. I just hope no one takes her circumstances and tries to make them into a broader rationale for dropping the restriction on women in front-line combat roles.

Agree 100%. As I've mentioned here on FR a few times, I served in an Army MI unit with a female 1st Sgt. She was one of the best leaders I ever dealt with during my time in.

Yes, putting women in infantry positions on the front lines is ludicris, but keeping women out of the military altogether (which I have seen more than a few FReepers advocate) is equally ludicris.
221 posted on 04/02/2003 8:45:08 PM PST by jmc813 (Control for smilers can't be bought;The solar garlic starts to rot;Was it for this my life I sought?)
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To: CyberAnt
What I want to know is: WHY DID SHE RUN OUT OF AMMO!!

What kind of idiot are you? A normal everyday ignore-them-and-they'll-go-away idiot... or the kind that it truly dangerous-to-let-them-work-heavy-machinery sort?

This sort of armchair warrior crap really ticks me off. Get another beer and pop some more popcorn. It'll be good for you.

222 posted on 04/02/2003 8:45:16 PM PST by Ramius
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To: CheneyChick
Army girls with guns RULE

Marine chicks are a lot more fun though - I speak from experience

223 posted on 04/02/2003 8:45:41 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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To: norcalvet
Exactly, my point, how must Jessica have felt seeing that all around her? But it obviously didn't defeat her.
224 posted on 04/02/2003 8:46:58 PM PST by JustPiper (Anti-War Protestors Are The Terrorist's Bodyguard!!!)
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To: norcalvet
Folks who have been in the military, and watched their friends die, have a higher bar. I believe that is what she just did.

What she has done is good, but to put her on a pedestal and call her a hero while ignoring her fellows who are now dead is inappropriate. OK, if you are alive and have ever been decorated for bravery, return your awards. From now on we only honor the dead. (BTW, I am sure those dead soldiers will be honored.)

Be glad for her, celebrate her survival, and honor her accomplishments, but have some respect for the true heros. So, by your standards, because she is a survivor she is not a hero?

225 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:35 PM PST by Gamecock (Some people are way to crabby, HOOAH?)
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To: John H K
Dayam... wouldn't you like to see her in a boxing ring with the Dixi Chick big mouth?
226 posted on 04/02/2003 8:48:14 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: patriciaruth
I have been praying for Shoshonnah by name several times a day. Do we have a thread on FR, a sort of prayer thread for the MIAs and the POWs like Shoshonah?
227 posted on 04/02/2003 8:48:39 PM PST by Maeve (Siobhan's daughter and sometime banshee.)
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To: John H K
I am absolutely against women anywhere near combat.

This woman had no business in Iraq, this is all just another horrible part of the legacy of Bill Clinton.

I have no doubt this woman was raped repeatedly, tortured and they were keeping her alive for their further pleasure. The fact that they didn't even put her on TV with the others showed that they had some very sinister motives.

So, good, I'm glad she fought back. But she's no heroine to me. She's a little girl that shouldn't have been there.
228 posted on 04/02/2003 8:48:42 PM PST by FirstTomato ("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
She just became an American legend.

I certainly wouldn't go THAT far, but a Silver Star is certainly in order if these events took place as described.

229 posted on 04/02/2003 8:48:46 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: patriciaruth
You think we don't know that?

I did not even infer that we do not know that, it is just a valid point was made sbout Shoshauna, myself included she was not mentioned on this thread until that post.

230 posted on 04/02/2003 8:49:26 PM PST by JustPiper (Anti-War Protestors Are The Terrorist's Bodyguard!!!)
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To: OldEagle
In addition to Shoshana Johnson POW there is also Lori Piestewa who is MIA.

Patrick Miller, Joseph Hudson, Edgar Hernandez, James Riley are POW with Shoshana, and two POW's, David Williams and Ronald Young, were captured after their Apache helocopter went down.

There are about 15-17 MIA's.

231 posted on 04/02/2003 8:49:35 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I appreciate your enthusiasm. No harm no foul. Just be aware that those who have known personally the ugliness of war have difficulty getting excited about the one who survived because they are still thinking about their friends who will never come home.

Sadly, I fear that her brothers and sisters did not have the same good fortune that she did.

From the article:
"[Lynch] watched several other soldiers in her unit die around her in fighting"

After that, 7 are MIA and 5 were taken as POW's. When Lynch was rescued, they recovered ELEVEN bodies (which they are still identifying, but were clearly American soldiers).

Please honor and remember ALL of them - in one is a hero, they all are.
232 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:03 PM PST by norcalvet
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To: OldEagle
I was under the impression that there were at least two women POW's.

I thought there was another female gone missing in Jessica's maintenance squad.

233 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:11 PM PST by JustPiper (Anti-War Protestors Are The Terrorist's Bodyguard!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Well, REMF=Rear Echalon MFer (in the rear with the gear)if you didn't know and that strange word = secretarial. I knew I should not have messed with this thread.
234 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:00 PM PST by briant
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To: SickOfItAll; HairOfTheDog
Women have NO place on the battlefield frontlines.

She wasn't IN the front lines. Maybe you didn't know that. Some of us here are keeping up on the news. Please do try to keep up.

235 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:05 PM PST by Ramius
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To: The KG9 Kid
Bronze Star, at least.

No way. In Desert Storm, there were entire BRIGADES that awarded EVERY officer a Silver Star, just for being there. She'll get a Silver Star I'm betting. I'm just damn happy she's back, and I'll be even HAPPIER when we get the rest of our POWs back.

236 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:07 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: John H K
Having just watched "Courage Under Fire" the other night my first feeling is pride, but also curiosity as to what the real facts here were. There are many varied accounts. The only main accounts we have are hers and that of an Iraqi "Pharmacist" who "cared for her", at Hussein Hospital. If she is indeed up for a medal, it is likely the army will want to skip the details, as they did in the film I mentioned.
239 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:58 PM PST by montag813
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To: John H K
Having just watched "Courage Under Fire" the other night my first feeling is pride, but also curiosity as to what the real facts here were. There are many varied accounts. The only main accounts we have are hers and that of an Iraqi "Pharmacist" who "cared for her", at Hussein Hospital. If she is indeed up for a medal, it is likely the army will want to skip the details, as they did in the film I mentioned.
240 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:59 PM PST by montag813
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