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Iraqis Running Check Points were "Forced to do so"
FOX NEWS LIVE | 4/1/03 | FOX NEWS CHANNEL

Posted on 04/01/2003 12:02:32 PM PST by stlnative

Breaking on FOX... First Suicide Bomber was forced to set off bomb at check point that killed 4 soldiers. They threatened to kill his children and the money paid out to his family was hush money. The van full of women and children were also forced and threatened.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atrocities; checkpoints; innocentcivilians; iraq; iraqifreedom; warlist
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To: redlipstick
The info was given by a Muslim cleric

VERY interesting, I wonder if this piece of video will make it on Al Jizzera..

41 posted on 04/01/2003 12:16:04 PM PST by Paradox
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To: Sender
If you bothered to check, you'd see I've been here for awhile. =)

I'm referring to Fox being the first to claim chemicals found on two occasions, and having to back away from it, making "blockbuster" annoucnements on Saddam's fate that turn out to be fizzles, etc.

It's OK to be conservative and still realize that Fox spins things too. Don't rush headlong to label your fellow Freepers when valid points are made that run contrary to how you believe, please.
42 posted on 04/01/2003 12:16:09 PM PST by Retrofire (Let's roll!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Words fail to describe the depth of this evil.

Not for me!!! We just aren't allowed to use such language here...but y'all know what I' thinking.

43 posted on 04/01/2003 12:16:25 PM PST by Heff
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To: brigette
So the second one was not armed with a bomb ---- it was meant to be shot at, by the US, for horror purposes? Those poor people. Damn those Saddam lackies to h**l!
44 posted on 04/01/2003 12:16:36 PM PST by Exit148
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To: Retrofire
Fox was far too "out in front" on about three stories: 1) the British claim that they had "secured" Basra; 2) the repeated "discovery" of chemical weapons; and 3) the use of "scuds" before such was proven.

In the last few days, it looks to me like they have tightened up on what they let out, confirming multiple times. But still, how many different sources said the British had "secured" Basra?

One thing you cannot deny about FOX: it covers the WAR, while all these other stupid channels cover peace marches, idiot diplomats, and whining ex-military types. Fox keeps the main thing the main thing, and I love 'em for it.

45 posted on 04/01/2003 12:18:36 PM PST by LS
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To: brigette
Since the original story broke my impression was that the Iraqi army had given the vanload an ultimatum. "Start driving, don't stop and if you do, we'll kill you and those you leave behind."
46 posted on 04/01/2003 12:19:20 PM PST by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: RAT Patrol
Probably according to the survivors in the van.

Why would "survivors" be willing to tell the truth when their families would still be under threat of death? Doesn't pass the smell test.

47 posted on 04/01/2003 12:19:45 PM PST by AmusedBystander
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To: brigette
Hi Brigette,

This is certainly one scenario that makes sense. A van full of women and children driving around unescorted in a war zone? That just doesn't add up. And then, not to stop?
48 posted on 04/01/2003 12:19:48 PM PST by TheDon (It takes two to make peace, but only one to make war.)
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To: Redcloak
The idiot reporters (my students are even calling them "idiotreporters," now, as if it's all one word!) asked Gen. Brooks if they would consider using "non-lethal" weapons like stun guns at check points. Can these people get any dumber?
49 posted on 04/01/2003 12:19:56 PM PST by LS
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To: Exit148
Yes... they knew we would shoot at the car and the people in it, it may have been a test to see how they reacted. Next one may have a bomb in the engine area (would it go off if it was shot?)
50 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:02 PM PST by stlnative (If it were not for the soldier there would not be no land of the free)
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To: brigette
hmmmmmm......Posted by AmericanInTokyo to tiki On News/Activism 03/31/2003 5:07 PM EST #53 of 171 "This may have been a suicide stunt. You know, "death-by-officer" when people force LEOs to 'off' them? They may have been whipped by the Ba'athists into an Islamic frenzy, and told to speed into that zone, and that their martyrdom could then play out on pan-Arabic TV everywhere, to further demonize 'the infidel invaders' and further the cause. Allah be praised. I smell something contrived here."
51 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (KIM JONG IL is having another bad underwear day.)
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To: Retrofire
I think he read the date you signed on wrong. For a fleeting moment I thought you were a newbie too. Your date says 2003-01-04. :-)
52 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:31 PM PST by areafiftyone (God Bless George Bush and Tony Blair!)
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To: brigette
I would also like to hear from the survivors but this is an interesting interview.

But I must keep in mind that war is hell and whether they ran it on purpose (as suggested here) or not, it is a fact of war.

Of course, if this turns out to be true, then the lamestream press will run this part of the story in the "f" section, page 275, bottom right corner in a font size of 3.5 and not mention it on their nightly news casts.

hawk

53 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:46 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: LS
weapons like stun guns at check points

How bout we just give out demerits...

54 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:47 PM PST by Paradox
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To: Paradox
VERY interesting, I wonder if this piece of video will make it on Al Jizzera..

Of course not - but I hope it gets on Coalition TV transmissions.

55 posted on 04/01/2003 12:20:48 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: Paradox
I'm guessing there are people who knew the man in the first van, and people who knew the women and children, and also knew if they were forced to run the checkpoints.
56 posted on 04/01/2003 12:21:49 PM PST by TheDon (It takes two to make peace, but only one to make war.)
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To: Redcloak
There was a bomb?
57 posted on 04/01/2003 12:22:02 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Sender
It can be spelled both ways but ii is the correct/preferred spelling.
58 posted on 04/01/2003 12:22:07 PM PST by KeyWest
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To: CindyDawg
I was talking about the incident over the weekend; the one that killed 4 of our guys.
59 posted on 04/01/2003 12:23:01 PM PST by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: Retrofire
Whether you are a troll or not, I thought your shot at Faux was quite witty. While I love them and spend most of my time with them (why waste effort on networks that don't even recognize the country from which they broadcast), they occasionally border on Weekly World News-ish hype.
60 posted on 04/01/2003 12:23:34 PM PST by Myrnick (eee, I wuz awl 'ungry like)
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