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CNN TV: Allies May Have Found Chemical Weapons at Terrorist Camp
CNN (on air) ^ | 04/01/2003 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 04/01/2003 6:11:17 AM PST by TonyInOhio

CNN TV has reported this morning that Allied forces "may have found chemical weapons at Ansar al Islam camp in Northern Iraq".

The Agonist weblog comments on hearing the same:

Allied forces may have found chemical weapons at a camp of the radical Islamist group, Ansar al Islam, in northern Iraq, reported CNN on April 1.

National Review Online has a similar tease:

ANSLAR AL ISLAM & WMD [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
CNN On Air is reporting suspected chemcial/bioweapon evidence found at the camp seized over the weekend.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; ansaralislam; chemicalweapons; illegalweapons; iraq; war
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To: The Other Harry
"Even if this is true, it does not connect them to Saddam. Ansar and Saddam were not friends of each other."
You need to remember one thing. Ansar and Saddam hate us more than they hate each other. There is an old Arabic saying; "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I am certain this is the case here.
41 posted on 04/01/2003 7:28:56 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: AntiGuv
Umm, no it's not, unless it's his responsibility. This is an intellectually bankrupt position to hold. If Saddam doesn't control that part of Iraq, whatever is found there is clearly not his responsibility

If he wants the benefits of the sovereignity argument to hide behind when commiting attrocities then he must accept the obligations that occur because of his soveriegnity. You can't let him have it both ways. The obligations come with the benefits.

42 posted on 04/01/2003 7:29:47 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: honway; ravingnutter; Fred Mertz; Wallaby; rubbertramp; aristeides
what follows from ravingnutter's post # 39 bears repeating:

An excerpt:

Intelligence officials told me that the agency also takes seriously reports that an Iraqi known as Abu Wa’el, whose real name is Saadoun Mahmoud Abdulatif al-Ani, is the liaison of Saddam’s intelligence service to a radical Muslim group called Ansar al-Islam, which controls a small enclave in northern Iraq; the group is believed by American and Kurdish intelligence officials to be affiliated with Al Qaeda. I learned of another possible connection early last year, while I was interviewing Al Qaeda operatives in a Kurdish prison in Sulaimaniya. There, a man whom Kurdish intelligence officials identified as a captured Iraqi agent told me that in 1992 he served as a bodyguard to Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden’s deputy, when Zawahiri secretly visited Baghdad.

43 posted on 04/01/2003 7:47:11 AM PST by thinden
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To: wjcsux
You need to remember one thing. Ansar and Saddam hate us more than they hate each other. There is an old Arabic saying; "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I am certain this is the case here.

No disagreement on my side.

It's just that we did not become the common enemy until we pre-emptively invaded Iraq. Now we are.

Whatever weapons programs have been going on there preceded that.

44 posted on 04/01/2003 7:47:42 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: mewzilla
Assassination. But, by all accounts, that's been too difficult to pull off.

Short of that, I would've chosen to defer the war until the assembling of greater international consensus or otherwise provide whatever was required to get Turkey on board with the northern front so integral to the Pentagon's original battleplans.

45 posted on 04/01/2003 7:47:55 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: TonyInOhio
I trust that we definately will find WMD's.

However, I don't trust anything out of CNN.

46 posted on 04/01/2003 7:49:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: AntiGuv
According to the map of Iraq in last week's Navy Times, the Ansar enclave outside Halabja is separated from Saddam-controlled Iraq by about 50 miles of PUK-controlled territory.
47 posted on 04/01/2003 7:49:46 AM PST by aristeides
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To: The Other Harry
It's just that we did not become the common enemy until we pre-emptively invaded Iraq

Are you kidding ? Upi until this last comment you made at least some sense. Now your in lala land.

48 posted on 04/01/2003 7:50:43 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: smith288
They (leftists) need to see Saddam pouring VX into missile warheads and placing Anthrax into envelopes to be convinced. I doubt even that would convince them.
49 posted on 04/01/2003 7:50:51 AM PST by Connservative
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To: AntiGuv
If Saddam doesn't control that part of Iraq, whatever is found there is clearly not his responsibility.

The UNSC Resolution 687 made no reference to "control". The resolution states:

Affirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independance of Kuwait and Iraq ...

8. Decides that Iraq shall unconditionally accept the destruction, removal, or rendering harmless under international supervision of:
(a) all chemical and biolgical weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, and support and manufacturing facilities related thereto; ...

10. Decides further that Iraq shall unconditionally undertake not to use, develop, construct or aquire any of the items specified in paragraphs 8 and 9... As I read, it, the UNSC recognizes Iraq as the sovereign over the internationally accepted bouders of Iraq, demands the destroy thier WMD's, and prohibits the reaquistion thereof. IMHO, if we find them in Iraq - Saddam has to answer for it.

50 posted on 04/01/2003 7:52:03 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: Media Insurgent
Actually, I believe Ansar Al Islam was connected with Saddam. They were attacking the PKU and Kurds on behalf of Saddam.

I remember in the last 6 months reading articles about this.

51 posted on 04/01/2003 7:54:04 AM PST by chantal7
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Don't you think our having established the Northern No-Fly Zone has a lot to do with Saddam's lack of control over the Kurdish areas?

Did Lincoln's government bear responsibility for what the Confederacy did at the Andersonville prison camp? Did the South Vietnamese Thieu government bear responsibility for Viet Cong atrocities?

52 posted on 04/01/2003 7:54:20 AM PST by aristeides
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To: smith288
They (leftists) need to see Saddam pouring VX into missile warheads and placing Anthrax into envelopes to be convinced.

You have not seen their current talking points: even when we prove the Iraqi's have WMD, they will accuse of the US of purposely not sharing the intel with the UN so that we could attack as opposed to allowing inspections to work...

53 posted on 04/01/2003 7:56:16 AM PST by Snerfling
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To: aristeides
Don't you think our having established the Northern No-Fly Zone has a lot to do with Saddam's lack of control over the Kurdish areas?

How does a no fly Zone prevent Saddam from exerting political control of the Kurdish (and Shi'ite) areas? The Kurds were granted a limited autonomy - they are still Iraqi's and Iraq is the sovereign of these areas. (Funny how his military was still there until a couple of days ago!!)

The Confederacy declared independance and lost. During the "rebellion" they were soley responsible for thier actions (imports / exports / production etc... )

North and South Vietnam were "independant" and recognized countries, so no, the South bore no responsibility for the actions of the north.

54 posted on 04/01/2003 8:10:11 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: VRWC_minion
Are you kidding ? Up until this last comment you made at least some sense. Now your in lala land.

Why?

Serious question.

55 posted on 04/01/2003 8:21:45 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: TonyInOhio
This report will be gone by tonight never to be heard about again, like all of the other reports of found chemical weapons.
56 posted on 04/01/2003 8:24:49 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: AmericanInTokyo; The Other Harry
Gee, imagine winning a battle in the War on Terrorism while fighting the War on Iraq...and then claiming the two are not connected.

Major Rationalization Alert.

57 posted on 04/01/2003 8:24:58 AM PST by ez (America is great because America is good.)
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To: The Other Harry
I believe they are connected, and have been all along. Radical Islam has always considered the U.S. as "The Great Satan". Iraq, and other Middle East countries, have always been more than happy to accommodate any terrorist group that doesn't like us.
58 posted on 04/01/2003 8:32:25 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: The Other Harry
Even if this is true, it does not connect them to Saddam. Ansar and Saddam were not friends of each other.

OK Harry! I have had enough of this friendship BS!

Don't you understand that these relationships are based on common goals and hatreds, Not personal relationships.

Is the American Communist party a personal friend of PETA? Are the Germans friends with Putin? Is Mexico's government in bed with the French?

These relationships are one of necessity in order to cause damage to a superior force. The U.S.A.

These Islamic fascist have no love for each other or Saddam, but they work together often to achieve the common goal. The destruction of the West.

Use your head and imagination and and the connections are obvious and glaring!

Stop viewing this like a legal case that require proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. This legalistic behavior is what got us into this mess to begin with!

59 posted on 04/01/2003 8:38:12 AM PST by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, and didn't the U.S. join up with Communist China to go after common enemy Japan? The U.S. is a common enemy to these guys.
60 posted on 04/01/2003 8:40:43 AM PST by jwalburg (The purpose of all war is ultimately peace. -- St. Augustine)
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