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Mounting U.S. casualties dispel modern war myths
USA TODAY ^ | Mar 24 2003

Posted on 03/24/2003 8:44:10 AM PST by new cruelty

This past weekend, war news suddenly turned from ghostly images of ''shock and awe'' bombs exploding in the distance to bloody ambushes, misfires, stiff enemy resistance and mounting casualties.

A helicopter crash on Friday claimed 12 allied fighters. On Saturday, two Royal Navy helicopters collided over the Persian Gulf, killing seven. A Patriot battery meant to intercept enemy missiles downed a British jet in Kuwait. A grenade apparently set off by a U.S. soldier at a Kuwait camp took another American life. Then, in the type of atrocity that haunts even veterans of combat, Iraqi television put on display Sunday five captured U.S. soldiers and showed the bodies of four others, several shot in the head.

All are tragedies to be mourned. The victims' names, faces and personal stories are grim testimony to the human sacrifice behind even a high-tech war. After Capt. Ryan Beaupre, 30, of St. Anne, Ill., was reported killed in Friday's helicopter crash, his sister Alyse, 31, fought back tears as she told USA TODAY that the family had received an upbeat letter from Ryan only on Wednesday reporting that ''things were good.''

Such losses can't help but test the public's resolve. Yet they need not shake it if they're used for another purpose: to knock down a dangerous conceit of the antiseptic war.

For 12 years, wars have been presented on TV largely as precision-guided bombs hitting exact targets to produce extremely low U.S. casualties. Just 148 U.S. soldiers died in battle during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites). None in the bombing attacks on Kosovo. Sixteen U.S. troops in Afghanistan (news - web sites).

Technological advances have, in fact, made conventional war less risky to both civilian populations and American soldiers. Those improvements are welcome.

But they've given the public a misleading impression about war. A weekend USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll finds that even after the first U.S. deaths, 41% believe fewer than 100 U.S. troops will be killed or injured in the conflict. That compares with just 12% in 1991 who thought the first Gulf War would end with so few casualties. A nation that mistakenly views wars as safe could be more prone to start one and less likely to back it if the going gets tough.

Countering this requires the nation's leaders to offer more honest appraisals about the true dangers of war. Even before an enemy is confronted, military campaigns are deadly. More U.S. troops died off the battlefields in the first Gulf War and Afghanistan than in combat. That has been the pattern in the early stages of this war, too, though urban fighting and ambushes are likely to accelerate as U.S. forces close in on Baghdad.

In his national radio address Saturday, President Bush (news - web sites) warned that the war ''could be longer and more difficult'' than some predict. On Sunday he told reporters that ''this is just the beginning of a tough fight.''

Such realistic assessments are difficult to hear. But they're needed to brace a public that has been blessedly ignorant of war's high human toll.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: casualities; iraqifreedom; publicopinion; war; warlist
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1 posted on 03/24/2003 8:44:10 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
What modern myth? Oh, that it's a @#%@# video game. What morons....
3 posted on 03/24/2003 8:47:46 AM PST by dagar
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To: new cruelty
We can't act on the opinion of the the uninformed..or fail to act.
4 posted on 03/24/2003 8:47:50 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Actually, it was the Face-Biting Rapist who tried to push the "antiseptic wars" myth on the public.

Bubba's "war strategy" consisted if lobbing a few missiles at empty buildings & aspirin factories, and then retiring with an intern to the Oval Office sink.

5 posted on 03/24/2003 8:51:14 AM PST by RooRoobird14 ("Democrats: The Party of Feminists Supporting Rapists")
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To: new cruelty
The press is shocked that people get killed in war. This is not supposed to happen. Where are the big soft nerf bombs?
6 posted on 03/24/2003 8:52:17 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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To: new cruelty
Mounting U.S. casualties dispel modern war myths

The "modern war myths" were spread by the media.

Norman Schwarzkopf was on MSNBC yesterday, and he said that they planned for as many as 10,000+ U.S. casualties during Gulf War I.

7 posted on 03/24/2003 8:52:53 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats Piss Me Off !!)
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To: new cruelty
Mounting U.S. casualties dispel modern war myths

No one has ever said that modern warfare results in fewer troop casualties--on the contrary, it is more lethal with the increased accuracy of the weapons.

Typical "USA Today" garbage.

8 posted on 03/24/2003 8:53:28 AM PST by The Toad
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To: dagar
Modern war myths, my hiney. To hear and read some of these doom and gloom reports, one would come to the conclusion that the Coalition Forces are on the verge of utter defeat because there have not been zero casualties (on both sides) and the war did not end in 48 hours! Yeah, right. The Iraqi army will soon be marching on Buckingham Palace and the White House if this keeps up...

And how about those reporters and anchors who call fire fights, skirmishes and pockets of resistance from fanatical Republican Guards dressed as CIVILIANS (who have nothing to lose except their power, prestige and a ringside seat at a criminal war crimes trial) MAJOR BATTLES?!!!
9 posted on 03/24/2003 8:53:55 AM PST by demnomo
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To: new cruelty
We have so many Ohio subs, sitting around.. useless. A single one would save many American lives.
10 posted on 03/24/2003 8:54:09 AM PST by Monty22
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To: Motherbear
That's the truth!!! If something truly dreadful happens to this woman..the PC crowd will blame it on Bush, the Army, Pillsbury Doughboy, whomever. Just not themselves. I spent 7 years in the Army. When I hit my first REMF assignment after 6 years and had to be in close contact with women soldiers....I got out.

Some may say, "What a sauvinistic(sp) bigot", that's ok you can call me that. The truth of the matter is, I was too distracted by the females. It is the natural instinct of a man(a real man at least)to protect any woman. They are the pillar of our exsistence(for God sakes). I realized that I could not do my job effectivly. I also realized the "support" Army was nothing but a socialist, welfare apparatus. So here I am.....
11 posted on 03/24/2003 8:54:49 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: SunStar
Such realistic assessments are difficult to hear. But they're needed to brace a public that has been blessedly ignorant of war's high human toll.

Perhaps the public is not as blessedly ignorant as one might think.

12 posted on 03/24/2003 8:55:22 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: The Toad
What the press would have us believe is that we are in a heavyweight championship fight and we expect to win the fight without ever getting hit with a single punch!
13 posted on 03/24/2003 8:55:23 AM PST by BillM
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To: new cruelty
Too many helo mishaps!
14 posted on 03/24/2003 8:55:54 AM PST by dennisw
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To: new cruelty
Also take a few minutes to look at this thread: Winning Big....
15 posted on 03/24/2003 8:56:24 AM PST by shezza (God bless America, and God bless and protect our valiant troops.)
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To: new cruelty
I hope that the public can be informed that war is not bloodless. I wish that it were. I think out military is capable of doing a lot while minimizing our casualties. But ...

At the time of the Civil War, the US pop. was probably 50 million or so (guessing) and we took 500,000 casualties. During WWII our population was probably about 150 million and we took 450,000 casualties. Our population is now about 300 million -- and some folk think we can fight a war which might involve Weapons of Mass Destriction -- and get away with less than 100 casualties.

The US has to be prepared to pay any price, bear any burden, and oppose any foe. I know that's a view that no respectable Democrat would embrace these days (oh, the irony), but the public must understand the reality.

16 posted on 03/24/2003 8:56:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: new cruelty
And what myth is that? That U.S. forces will suffer no casualties? Does anyone remember that 3000 soldiers were killed on D-Day in 1942? ...and that Eisenhower thought we got off easy?

I'll admit I was shocked and saddened when I heard about the first casualty and all the followed. But after 5 days of battle we've had roughly 20 soldiers killed. While that is 20 too many, that low number is unprecedented.

17 posted on 03/24/2003 8:56:33 AM PST by rogers21774
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To: shezza
thank you. I did earlier.
18 posted on 03/24/2003 8:58:39 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
God knows what would've happened if we'd had this kind of mindset on 6/6/44 after D-Day. They think THIS is bad? THAT was bad.

Gen. William T. Sherman, USA, 1864: "War is all hell."

Nothing, including technology, that has happened in the 139 years since has changed that basic, bottom-line fact.

19 posted on 03/24/2003 8:59:02 AM PST by GB
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To: demnomo
No Sh**! The numbers are going to climb. What do people expect as we get closer to Bagdad? Plus, when our military can't do their job because so many "people" demand that they worry more about Iraqi civilians (whom BTW means nothing to THEIR leader) than their own safety. And, how are the military suppose to know Iraq military from civilians if the military are dressed as civilians? Oh, the ties that bind..........
20 posted on 03/24/2003 9:00:23 AM PST by beachn4fun (God love those military.........)
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