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A DIFFERENT LIEBERMAN REMEMBERED (a staunch pro-abortion candidate makes a pro-life pledge)
Washington Times | 9/11/00 | George Archibald

Posted on 03/23/2003 4:54:27 AM PST by Liz

September 11, 2000

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted (six times) against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.

He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate, and even told pro-life leaders he would have voted to confirm Judge Robert Bork for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mr. Lieberman met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights, from the U.S. Senate.

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown. The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.

Records of a meeting between Mr. Lieberman and top officials of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) two months after the 1988 election quote Mr. Lieberman as saying he "thinks there are too many abortions," and promisinghe would not "apply a litmus test" against pro-life judicial nominees.

Archbishop Whealon has since died, but his former secretary, Father Thomas Berry, says he remembers the 1988 meeting where Mr. Lieberman "expressed himself as coming from a tradition in support of life, not in favor of abortion on demand."

"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests," Father Berry says.

A spokesman for Mr. Lieberman says Mr. Cosgrove's memory of the meeting with the archbishop "is not accurate," and says Mr. Lieberman has been consistently pro-choice. Mr. Cosgrove says he and state Sen. Regina Smith, who conducted the pro-life poll for the archdiocese, arranged for

Mr. Lieberman, then the state attorney general, to meet with the Catholic prelate before the election to lay out his support for Catholic pro-life positions, which Mr. Weicker had actively opposed.

The strategy worked, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman convinced the archbishop he favored pro-life positions and would vote differently than Mr. Weicker, thus winning Catholic support that pushed him to a narrow 10,000-vote victory — the only Democratic Senate upset of that year.

With Republican Vice President George Bush outpolling Democrat Michael S. Dukakis by almost 100,000 votes in Connecticut's presidential balloting that year, Mr. Lieberman's strategic appeal for pro-life votes countered the

Republican tide that otherwise might have benefited Mr. Weicker, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman's winning margin was less than 1 percent of 1.4 million votes. Mr. Lieberman, an orthodox Jew, has defended his record, saying Jewish law is so deeply divided on the issue of abortion that even among orthodox Jews it may be construed as "a personal matter." The senator's spokesman, Dan Gerstein, insists there was no meeting between Mr. Lieberman and the archbishop before the 1988 election. "No one on staff at the time can remember a meeting with Archbishop Whealon during the campaign.

He had a private meeting with the archbishop after the election," the spokesman said. "Mr. Cosgrove's recollection of what was said at the meeting also is not accurate," Mr. Gerstein said. Mr. Lieberman "never said he would limit a woman's right to choose, that he would vote to ban abortion or to overturn Roe v. Wade."

The Supreme Court, in that 1973 case, held that a woman had a constitutional right to an abortion in certain circumstances. Mr. Lieberman has voted consistently pro-choice, both as a Connecticut state senator and U.S. senator, since his first elective office in 1970, Mr. Gerstein said.

Father Berry, now assigned to St. Mary's Parish in Newington, Conn., says Mr. Lieberman presented himself as a clear pro-life alternative, saying, "He was not an abortion activist as Senator Weicker was . . . and said his approach would be different."

In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.

Two months after the election, Mr. Lieberman and key staff aides again met with pro-life leaders in Washington and assured them he was an ally, says Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Mr. Lieberman said he would have voted to confirm Judge Bork to the Supreme Court had he been a member of the Senate during the confirmation hearings, according to written minutes of the meeting with Dr. Jack C. Willke, then the NRLC head, and Regina Smith, Connecticut's representative to the group.

Judge Bork, who was eventually denied confirmation, testified in Senate hearings that he would have voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Lieberman "would have voted for Bork, under whom he studied" at Yale University law school, according to the meeting notes taken by Mr. Johnson.

The notes quoted Mr. Lieberman as saying: "I'm not going to vote against a judicial nominee just because he's pro-life. I'm not going to apply a litmus test."

Mr. Lieberman acknowledged there was disagreement among his own new Senate staff on the abortion issue, the notes show: "He thinks there are too many abortions, but many disagree, women will have them anyway. He is unsettled, ambivilent [sic]. Some staff on both sides. Always access to him or top staff, will be heard respectfully. Regina is great. Continue dialog." ####


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To: grania
Your tag line says it all about LIEberman and others of his ilk who say
one thing to get elected and do another once safely ensconced in office.
21 posted on 03/23/2003 8:23:43 AM PST by Liz
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To: Interesting Times
"I know how to beat George Bush. Al Gore and I did in 2000.”

"I got the hyphenated-American vote locked up, for God's sake. Kerry's a nothing.
My grandfather, Senor Shaquille O’Liebermanelli Fu Ching changed his name. I claim Irish,
Latino, Black, Mediterranean, and Oriental voting blocs...er, I mean, roots."

" A donation to my campaign gets you a ticket to my Hyphenated-American Pander Dinner.
Help yourself to corned beef burrito, pastrami Egg Fu Yung, grits in Marnara sauce, vintage
Manishevitz, oregano bagels stuffed with teriyaki-glazed ham, chitlins and chili peppers."

22 posted on 03/23/2003 8:28:03 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
LOL. It's a shame that's too long for a poster caption.
23 posted on 03/23/2003 8:33:27 AM PST by Interesting Times (Eagles Up! Join the Rally for America...)
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To: OldFriend
I called his office when he voted against the PBA ban and blasted his aide for
LIEberman daring to state that he is an orthodox jew. The aide could not be more
rude to me and suggested that I was a liar when I said that orthodox jews do NOT
accept abortion.

Outrageous but typical Dumbocrat tactic.

That aide (sucking up our tax dollars) oughta be fired.

These ignorant DemoRats act like tinhorn dictators in a Third World banana republic.

They need to be reminded we live in the USA.

Your story confirms Joey's calculated phoniness.

Faced with the truth, they turn around and make you the culprit. Outrageous.

24 posted on 03/23/2003 8:39:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: Interesting Times
We could always do a print ad.
25 posted on 03/23/2003 8:40:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: schaketo
Al graciously accepts all Republicans for Sharpton endorsements.

"I'll show dat suckah Clintun who de first Black president be."

26 posted on 03/23/2003 8:43:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Some are saying that LIEberman has quietly changed from calling himself an orthodox jew to an 'observant' jew.

The man is a LIAR and is misrepresenting his religious beliefs for political gain.

The most disturbing aspect of this is that he is portraying himself to America as 'orthodox'.........setting a terrible example for those who don't know the truth.

27 posted on 03/23/2003 9:50:56 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Liz
EXCELLENT SATIRE
28 posted on 03/23/2003 12:39:47 PM PST by kitkat (HANDYMAN'S SPECIAL: First Avenue, NYC, former site of the U.N.)
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To: kitkat; Liz
sorry, I didn't meant to yell.
29 posted on 03/23/2003 12:40:25 PM PST by kitkat (HANDYMAN'S SPECIAL: First Avenue, NYC, former site of the U.N.)
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To: kitkat
Go ahead.....shout it out. OK by me. LOL.
30 posted on 03/23/2003 1:42:57 PM PST by Liz
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To: OldFriend
......LIEberman has quietly changed from calling himself an orthodox jew to an 'observant' jew.........

True, has been affirmed on FR from various news media.

The man is a LIAR and is misrepresenting his religious beliefs for political gain.

Phony Joey will say anything to win. As a lay person, such an individual is a fraud,
but b/c he holds elective office, LIEberman is downright dangerous. Voters need to realize
one can never believe anything that comes out of his lying mouth.

The most disturbing aspect of this is that he is portraying himself to America as
'orthodox'...........setting a terrible example for those who don't know the truth.

As Abe Lincoln once wrote, " You can fool some of the people some of the time......"

31 posted on 03/23/2003 1:57:00 PM PST by Liz
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To: sine_nomine
FYI
32 posted on 04/25/2003 5:46:51 AM PDT by Liz
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To: PGalt
The "conscience of the Senate" is a philosophical moron, a mental midget.

I am shocked, just shocked, to find that the "conscience of the Senate" does not, in fact, have one himself.

33 posted on 04/25/2003 6:12:58 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Liz
Dear Liz,

Perhaps this will help explain to pro-lifers that sometimes, even a "pro-choice" Republican is better than a "pro-life" Democrat.

sitetest
34 posted on 04/25/2003 6:42:49 AM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest
A no-brainer. A politican of any stripe who votes for the destruction of innocent life is not worthy of office.

But a lying pretender like LIEberman who blatantly pledged pro-life support knowing full well he would vote pro-abortion is beneath contempt. This toad gained political ascendacy on the backs of the innocent unborn. He is despicable.

And that's a diplomatic way of putting it.

35 posted on 04/25/2003 7:54:36 AM PDT by Liz
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; PGalt
Nice Claude Rains impersonation.

Joe LIEberman does a great impersonation, too - of a holier-than-thou politician (blech).

36 posted on 04/25/2003 7:57:51 AM PDT by Liz
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To: EggsAckley
FYI
37 posted on 05/04/2003 7:35:32 PM PDT by Liz
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To: George W. Bush
LIEber reader ping
38 posted on 05/04/2003 7:38:26 PM PDT by Liz
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To: nickcarraway; Coleus; Salvation; billbears; patent; fatima; JMJ333; amom; Alamo-Girl
He later voted six separate times for partial birth abortion, yet this
staunch pro-abortion candidate called on Catholic leaders with a pro-life pledge.
39 posted on 05/04/2003 8:08:43 PM PDT by Liz
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!; doug from upland; cpforlife.org; Desdemona
A stauch pro-abortion candidate calls on Catholic leaders with a pro-life pledge.
40 posted on 05/04/2003 8:11:48 PM PDT by Liz
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