Saddam's son beats 12-year-olds who say no to sex: defectors

The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | March 21, 2003 | Unknown

[EllaMinnow]

Saddam Hussein's eldest son mercilessly beats girls as young as 12 on the soles of their feet if they refuse to sleep with him, Iraqi defectors said today.

Uday Hussein forces head teachers of schools in Baghdad's poorest districts to send pupils to his palace where he arranges dates with those he likes.

If the chosen girls annoy him in anyway they are dangled over a wooden beam held by his bodyguards and repeatedly hit with a wooden club, according to two former members of his inner circle who recently fled Iraq.

"He does it to a girl if she says she doesn't want to go out with him, or if she finds another boyfriend, or is late or reluctant," one defector told Vanity Fair magazine.

The 38-year-old warns victims not to flinch while the beating is administered or they will have their legs broken. He often hits them up to 50 times, the report claimed.

Afterwards, when they can barely walk, he orders them to dance.

Uday, head of Iraq's Olympic Committee, was known to have beaten football players and athletes when they lost.

The defectors said he also inflicted beatings, imprisonment and torture on close friends and business associates - simply for being late to a meeting or irritating him.

His punishments have become more brutal since an assassination attempt in 1996 which left him with walking difficulties and problems having sex.

Some victims have been branded on the buttocks with hot irons.

"Uday tells them, 'this mark is never going to go from your body, so you'll remember me until the day you die'," one defector said.

One former friend died after being held down and made to drink huge quantities of pure alcohol.

Business rivals have been shot in the arm or a leg and then allowed to bleed slowly to death.

Uday also likes to deflower virginity, knowing that no one will touch them after he has slept with them, the defectors said.

"He likes joking about with his friends: 'look at her, after this she'll be a prostitute'."

The defectors have been debriefed by MI6 and Pentagon officials and are regarded as reliable sources on the workings of Saddam's regime, the magazine said.

Intelligence officials believe Uday may have been in the bunker hit by a cruise missile in the "decapitation strike" on Baghdad in the first hours of the war.

His younger brother, Qusay, is Saddam's heir after Uday fell out of favour when he murdered a close friend of his father in 1988.

[stanz]

Show me anything where I demonized. I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

[gcruse]

You can't pin this one on the Vatican. If they had their way, the peace would remain undisturbed while atrocities continued unabated.

[stanz]

You don't have to provide a history lesson. I understand what the Pope represents. How does he feel about the people who have been persecuted by Saddam? I merely suggested that he took up the same position as the UN. I don't agree with him. Am I allowed to say that? Or is that "demonizing" or "Catholic bashing?"

[stanz]

You don't have to provide a history lesson. I understand what the Pope represents. How does he feel about the people who have been persecuted by Saddam? I merely suggested that he took up the same position as the UN. I don't agree with him. Am I allowed to say that? Or is that "demonizing" or "Catholic bashing?"

[stanz]

You don't have to provide a history lesson. I understand what the Pope represents. How does he feel about the people who have been persecuted by Saddam? I merely suggested that he took up the same position as the UN. I don't agree with him. Am I allowed to say that? Or is that "demonizing" or "Catholic bashing?"

[EllaMinnow]

I've been working, and just listening to Fox News with half an ear, but I believe I just heard William deGennesse, who is embedded in Iraq, say that there are videos of torture.

If there are videos, then the stories will have complete credibility.

[Duramaximus]

Think N.O.W. will organize a committee to help these victims of sexual abuse?

Beyond that will Hildebeast, or other femi-nazis in Congress take up their cause?

I doubt it... unless there is a photo-op to be had.

[cyncooper]

That would be stunning.

[WaveThatFlag]

You don't have to provide a history lesson. I understand what the Pope represents. How does he feel about the people who have been persecuted by Saddam? I merely suggested that he took up the same position as the UN. I don't agree with him. Am I allowed to say that? Or is that "demonizing" or "Catholic bashing?"

I'm only going to answer this once, if it's ok with you. Nobody's accusing you of anything, so you needent' get so defensive. What I'm trying to tell you is that based on your position, it is clear that you don't understand Catholicism fully, and you are not clear on what the Pope's job is. He always needs to take a position against war. If you don't like it or agree with it, that is your right. When you suggest that he behave otherwise, you just look ignorant.

[Lady In Blue]

Leave the Vatican out of it,if you're going to leave the National Council of Churches out of it.It's a cheap,anti-Catholic shot.

[Happy2BMe]

Uday ... If the chosen girls annoy him in anyway they are dangled over a wooden beam held by his bodyguards and repeatedly hit with a wooden club, according to two former members of his inner circle.

If I'm not mistaken, this worm is now being perpetually entertained by demons in hell - ones who know what really turn him on - forever and ever (and that's a long time).

[Notwithstanding]

You demonize anyone against the war as being against stopping such atrocious behavior. Your post 7 says it all.

We both think this war is just. But that does not mean ALL people against the war are stupid or evil (though I think some of them probably are stupid and/or evil).

[Notwithstanding]

You did not merely criticize - you "demonized" AND you told a lie.

By all means, criticize Vatican policy - but don't tell the lie that the Vatican wants torture to go unchallenged.

[stanz]

Excuse me...I asked you to tell me exactly HOW and what I said that was demonizing. And what lie did I tell? I said that the Pope did not support the war. Is that a lie? You better brush up on your reading comprehension. Go back and read my post.

[stanz]

Touchy touchy. Why is it that I mentioned the U.N., the French, the Germans, the Russians and anti-war protestors here in the U.S., but you only noticed the word "Vatican". Did the Vatican refuse to support our efforts or didn't it?
Am I exaggerating anything?

[stanz]

I'd like to know why what the Pope has to say even matters at all when it comes to foreign policy. I don't suggest that he behave one way or the other. It's inconsequential to me,but obviously not to others.

I don't consider it ignorant to come out and respond to other posters who have said that I am bashing Catholics or that I am demonizing the church by my statements. My original post (#7) stated the following:

This is what the UN, our peaceniks, France, Germany,Russia and the Vatican would like to see left unchallenged.

Now I ask you, am I distorting anything or did the Pope not back us?

[Notwithstanding]

Your lie: "this (sexual torture committed by saddam's son) is what ... the Vatican would like to see left unchallenged"

You did not say "the pope does not support this war" -instead you said "the vatican wants torture to continue unchallenged."

You remarks indicate either a lack of understanding (doubtful - you are probably not stupid) or a deliberate attempt to smear the Vatican.

People who oppose war do not thereby support Saddam. Criticize their position, but don't lie about the position they actually hold.

[stanz]

People who oppose war do not thereby support Saddam

I disagree. The Pope (and the peaceniks, the UN, the French, the Germans and the Russians)by their lack of support for and denunciation of (the Pope today) the allied action in Iraq contribute to the apathy which would allow for the perpetuity of Saddam's regime.
That is the truth. It is not any smear of the Vatican. I am criticizing their opinion.

[Notwithstanding]

You keep altering and editing your blanket statement - because you know it was a hyperbolic smear.

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You think like a liberal democrat, who needs to constantly be reminded:

People who oppose gun control do not thereby support gun violence.

People who oppose "free" gov't healthcare for all do not support keeping poor kids sick.

People who oppose welfare do not support poverty.

People who oppose drug laws do not thereby support drug use.

People who oppose this war do not therby support Saddam.