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White Men Still Outearn Other Groups
AP via Lycos.com ^ | 03/21/2003

Posted on 03/21/2003 7:18:29 AM PST by GeneD

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Educational gaps between men and women and whites and blacks have narrowed in recent years, but this much has not changed: A highly educated white man still makes much more money than anyone else.

On average, a white man with a college diploma earned about $65,000 in 2001. Similarly educated white women made about 40 percent less, while black and Hispanic men earned 30 percent less, according to Census Bureau estimates being released Friday.

Almost half of Asian residents 25 and older have graduated from college, nearly twice the rate of whites. Still, Asians earned about 8 percent less than whites.

"There's a wedge between minority education gains and the payoff, and that's discrimination and the kinds of job opportunities available," said Jared Bernstein, an economist with the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-supported think tank.

There were similar disparities between white men and women on other educational levels. Income gaps have narrowed slightly since 1991 at the high school level and grown a bit at the college level.

Differences in income were slightly lower on other educational levels between white men and minorities. For instance, black men who are high school graduates earned about 25 percent less than comparably educated whites, and black men who held master's degrees earned 20 percent less than their white counterparts.

Looking back a decade, income gaps have edged up between whites and minorities. Historical data was not available for Asians.

"It doesn't do as much for closing gaps as it does to improving the floors that people are moving from," said demographer Roderick Harrison of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, which studies issues of importance to minorities. "It's like catching up with a speeding train."

The figures come from the Census Bureau's annual look at educational achievement in America, culled from a survey in March 2002. The bureau recorded record high educational levels for nearly every group and the nation overall.

Nationally, 84 percent of U.S. residents 25 and older are high school graduates, the Census Bureau found. By gender, it was 83.8 percent for men and 84.4 percent for women.

Nearly 27 percent are college graduates -- almost 29 percent of men and 25 percent of women.

The gap between men and women has been narrowing since the 1970s, largely due to younger, more educated women steadily replacing older, less-educated women in the work force, Census Bureau analyst Jennifer Day said.

For example, among 25- to 29-year-olds, nearly 32 percent of women have college diplomas, compared with 27 percent of men.

Whites, regardless of gender, remain more likely to be better educated than blacks and Hispanics. More than 29 percent of whites are college graduates, compared with 17 percent of blacks and about 11 percent of Hispanics, all record highs.

For blacks, disparities in high school graduation have narrowed dramatically with whites over the past 30 years. The college education gap has narrowed slightly between 1997 and 2002, but generally has increased since the 1970s.

Experts say that because whites typically make more money, that usually leads to more access to college.

Among Hispanics, the high school education gap with whites has remained level since 1970. Despite the record high, the college education gap between whites and Hispanics has grown during the 1990s in large part because of an increase in the number of less-educated Hispanic immigrants, Bernstein said.

Income disparities across educational levels were far lower among white women and other minorities. In fact, Asian women with bachelor's and master's degrees earned more money than similarly educated white women.

The federal government considers "Hispanic" to be an ethnicity instead of a race and people who are Hispanic can be of any race.

The most thorough historical data available in the report was for whites and blacks, regardless of Hispanic origin.

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1 posted on 03/21/2003 7:18:29 AM PST by GeneD
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To: GeneD
I'm sorry - is this news to you?
2 posted on 03/21/2003 7:23:00 AM PST by LindaPie
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To: GeneD
I can't wait for some hand-wringing social activist to cry, "The facts speak for themselves!"

No, facts do NOT speak. They just lie there until someone interprets them according to their agenda.

3 posted on 03/21/2003 7:27:17 AM PST by petuniasevan (cogito, ergo spud: I think, therefore I yam...)
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To: GeneD
"Screech! Racism!"
4 posted on 03/21/2003 7:28:09 AM PST by pabianice
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To: GeneD
Any chance that you white folks out-produce other groups?

Let's compare production levels of a whitey from Ohio with, let's say....a dark-skinned farmer from South Africa.

5 posted on 03/21/2003 7:33:03 AM PST by laotzu
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To: GeneD
A highly educated white man still makes much more money than anyone else.

Cool!

I love capitalism!

6 posted on 03/21/2003 7:33:44 AM PST by Strider
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To: GeneD
I always consider two factors where white men are concerned... the first is they have to compete against everyone to include themselves without "preference(s)", and secondly, white men still out-own everyone else in corporate America and the world for that matter:)
7 posted on 03/21/2003 7:35:16 AM PST by Jumper
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To: GeneD
A highly educated white man still makes much more money than anyone else

da, Could that be because we work harder?

8 posted on 03/21/2003 7:37:01 AM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: GeneD
Read "Vision of the Anointed" by Thomas Sowell and you'll find out a lot more about skewing statistics. For example, women who earn advanced degrees earn less than their male counterparts. This is true. However, the fields in which the advanced degrees are earned differ. Women favor fields such as social work and education that pay less while males favor fields such as engineering that pay more. When all other factors are taken into account, the difference is about 5%, not the 40% cited in the article. Black males actually earn 1-2% more than white males when all factors are equalized.
9 posted on 03/21/2003 7:41:36 AM PST by Andyman
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To: 2timothy3.16
da, Could that be because we work harder?

Don't fool your self. No.
10 posted on 03/21/2003 7:45:24 AM PST by Egregious Philbin
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To: Egregious Philbin
da, Could that be because we work harder?

Don't fool your self. No.

Almost all the earning differential between white men and other groups disappears if you factor out education and hours worked per week; for example, the famous 'women earn 73 cents on the dollar' statistic neglected the fact the women 'full-time' workers work approximately 10 fewer hours per week than men.

11 posted on 03/21/2003 7:51:07 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: GeneD
Does the study control for childbearing and affirmative action? Leaving the workforce to raise children is normal, and women's earnings suffer for the choice. Also, if affirmative action rather than ability secured a spot in college, the relative competence level of the study groups may differ.

Perhaps if they look at childless women and black men who did not enter college through affirmative action they would have a reasonably scientific approach. Baring that, this study seems unscientific.
13 posted on 03/21/2003 7:57:59 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Brad Cloven
the relative competence level of the study groups may differ.

Proof that affirmative action doesn't work. What happens at exam time (at least in the colleges that bother teaching) when the less capable have to take the same test as those who got in on their merits? A "university" here is so into affirmative action that 60% of the students are placed into remedial programs ---but at least they have enough "minority" students even if those students are 95% of the student body.

14 posted on 03/21/2003 8:09:53 AM PST by FITZ
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To: GeneD
Nothing in the social or economic worlds change overnight. A really good example of this would be South Africa. Things became much worse when they took over the country from the "whites". The smart way to have played this would have been to work with the white people, learn, and work together using each individuals talents to improve things. Just becuse you own a farm or a factory doesn't mean you know how to run a successful business!
15 posted on 03/21/2003 8:11:17 AM PST by rivercat
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To: GeneD
http://ferret.bls.census.gov/macro/032002/perinc/new01_000.htm

You can get the real details here, and ignore the worthless article attached. What the article fails to spell out is the work experience and hours worked per week, comparison of occupational fields, and part time vs. full time workers' income differential. I'd love, just once, to see the article that runs nationally that spells out just how bad off minorities are with all those controlled. I'd be shocked to discover they are worse off at all. Sort of like I'd be shocked to discover that teachers are biased for boys in school--since women have now become the majority of college students.

I am so happy that the American press is, according to the left, 'controlled by conservatives.' God forbid we should let the LEFTISTS publish THEIR b.s. I mean, really, you'd think that the right-wing press could have done a better job of keeping this awful news under wraps. </sarcasm>
16 posted on 03/21/2003 8:12:07 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (U.S. Armed Forces--coming soon to a theater near you!)
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To: GeneD
We try harder.
17 posted on 03/21/2003 8:14:19 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: GeneD
regardless of Hispanic origin

If you took out the immigrant groups, looked at only those who were already here or arrived before the 70's, you would not find any difference at all between "hispanics" and "whites". They lump together the types that were naturally middle class with the types that are naturally welfare class to get averages that are skewed.

18 posted on 03/21/2003 8:18:06 AM PST by FITZ
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To: GeneD

))))) YAWN (((((


19 posted on 03/21/2003 8:19:17 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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To: GeneD
Are all degrees equal? Should women's and black studies degrees lead to the same pay as engineering and medicine?
20 posted on 03/21/2003 8:21:15 AM PST by struwwelpeter (borot'sya i iskat', nayti i ne sdavat'sya)
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