Where are the Militias now? (vanity)

[fire_eye]

It seems to me that the various Militias are missing a unique chance to gain some positive recognition, in the current circumstances. There are far more vital facilities in the U.S. than the civilian law enforcment agencies can hope to protect from terrorist attack, and the military (in case you hadn't noticed), is currently Busy Elsewhere.

The Militias could at least contact their local law enforcement agencies and ask them what they can do to help, and issue press releases detailing their availability and giving contact information.

My understanding is that the original intent by the Founding Fathers intended for the Militias to be activated primarily for this sort of eventuality, and that keeping would-be-totalitarian Presidents (and I'm NOT mentioning any names, BUT...) and their rogue agencies under control, should be merely a regrettably necessary secondary function.

But perhaps I'm wrong... or maybe the Militias *themselves* view their responsibilities as being limited to grousing about the Government?

[fire_eye]

The fact that the leftist media (But I repeat myself...) would howl at the Militias' offering to make themselves available is not only irrelevant, but something to be welcomed, as far as I'm concerned. The Militias could then accuse the media of being against public safety. Moreover, if the civilian authorities *refused* help, they would be doing so at the risk of their credibility as well, in the unfortunate eventuality of an actual terrorist attack...

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

Look south.

[Stopislamnow]

Indeed.

Too bad Bilareno put every kind of heat imaginable on em and the mainstream media thrashed em to no end.

They could be useful.

Some were tin-foil jobs, but alot of em were very well meaning, BilaReno was way out of control. We're one dem prez from total chaos the way this nation is polarized.
Just glad I'm on the side with the guns.

[Dec31,1999]

Good Vanity! And good question!

[Dec31,1999]

bump!

[Screaming_Gerbil]

They're on it.

By the way, what are You doing?

(Or don't you consider yourself a part of the militia mentioned in the Second Amendment?)

[TShaunK]

I'd like to know. (Mass.)

[nightdriver]

"But perhaps I'm wrong... or maybe the Militias *themselves* view their responsibilities as being limited to grousing about the Government?"

That's not fair. To raise one's head above the crowd and offer militia service would be to invite severe prosecution by the subversive socialists in America's "justice" system.

Those who can effectively form the militia will keep a low profile and keep ready for when it's obvious that they're needed. Then they will be plenty available.

[dersepp]

Asking the militias to contact the liberal political machines located even in the smallest police departments is asking to be put on a profiling and FBI observation list. Can you spell l-i-n-e-t-a-p?

The munincipal and even rural departments are on the government teet for such a large portion of budget (thank you Clinton for those extra 100,000 officers and all the requirements needed to get that funding)they are beholden to jump through hoops for the fed. The government isn't even telling its citizens specifics for these alerts, not asking them to look out for particular situations like during the home-front efforts of WWII.

When the next shoe drops starting a red alert, probably on the left coast, and the government tells lawful owners of guns to start carrying, THEN we could organize and approach the officials for appropriate tasks. As for me, I'm not holding my breath.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

In my limited experience with the militia movement, I realized that there was a finite amount of time that could be committed to active involvement before other matters took precedence. There is only so much time a civilian can invest into training and organization.

With the Oklahoma City bombing, the militia movement was targeted for demonization and attack by almost everyone who could get to a microphone. Those few who remained active tended to come across as foilhatters themselves, small groups of bunglers and fools who were a threat if only for the fact that they weren't quite sure which end of the tube the rounds comes out of.

Disassociation and dissolving of active groups became a safety precaution against Waco styled wienie roasts. We all saw how Uncle Sham dealt with those he saw as a threat. Neither I nor those I have known want to risk turning their children into torches because of a setup or misunderstanding. Dubya may not be the same breed as those who enjoyed kindergartener-kabobs down Texas way, but he is still a politician, requiring some degree of skepticism. However, many saw him as a step in the right direction and as such, represents a change in alert status.

GWB is IMHO a peach of a president compared to many we have suffered in the past, I voted for him and will gladly do it again. However, were I involved with one of these militia groups, I would still have to think long and hard before coming forward and offering any assistance because the risks far outweigh the rewards. It would take but the tiniest mistake or misunderstanding to bring the wrath of the government down on the militias right now considering the uberparanoia that grips the U.S. A great number of people just couldn't make the leap of logic required to separate a group of weapon toting Americans from a massed group of terrorists ready to rape, pillage, plunder and maim.

While the exmilitia members may not actively train or associate with their brothers in arms, rest assured that they still exist. Precaution against persecution hasn't killed the spirit that brought the militia activists into being, it has just tempered it with prudence.

There are many reasons why the militias would not come forward now, these are just a few I could guess at.

[JudgemAll]

The militia is also all of us. As long as the sheeple will let protestors commit conspiracy to mass felony confinement of people like that, we are on our way to Dachau and Aushwitch, saying nothing when lead to the mass grave pit lead by three angry tree huggers,,,, all in the name of free speech...

The militia, well, it cannot wake up for others but for itself, and it could garner support through gov coordination, but the couple bad apple gov people around power who do not do their jobs hate to have a zealous militia dude around asking questions...

The sheeple will have to say enough and will have to force them ultimately.

[JudgemAll]

Note that some militias are pro-protestors or at least against war on Iraq. :( :(

[ContentiousObjector]

Personally I am convinced that most militia groups were made up almost entirely of undercover federal agents and investigative reporters.

Apprently most of the sunshine warriors who just wanted to play with guns in the woods have moved on leaving only the ultra-violent hardcore literal terrorists who keep very low profiles around, and they are probably still in their bunkers thinking the world ended at Y2K

[SLB]

One of the folks I work with has had a CCW permit for several years but this week finally started to routinely carry. I think we will see more and more of these folks coming out of the woodwork.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

Who knows?

[CDHart]

Don't worry. They'll be there when they're needed.

Carolyn

[Clean_Sweep]

"I think we will see more and more of these folks coming out of the woodwork."

My guess is that almost everyone with a gun in Americam made sure that they had extra ammo close at hand a long time ago.

[Squantos]

Aside from my day to day 1911A1 w/ a spare wilson rogers 10 round extended magazine and a surefire 6P light with a GG&G TID device on it I have started wearing my ankle rig with the little TiLite S&W 317 .22 snub nose with a small 50 round box of custom .22 ammo that I reworked with a Paco Kelly "tool".

The little snub is fitted with the Barimi Grips in case I need to stuff it back into my waistband. The uncle mikes ankle holster was "modified " by one of our parachute riggers for me with a pouch for bianchi speed strips when I used it to carry a older Mod 37 Airweight .38 . The small pouch carries a 50 round box of spare .22 ammo just fine with that little 8 round S&W 317 revolver now.

My ballistic nylon briefcase has threat level IIIA panels in the main compartment and the cover flap which makes it an adhoc quick "A" zone form of frontal protection. Add to all that a Robert Terzoula ACTF Folder clipped in my weak side waistband and that completes my day to day carry rig for threat level citrus.

Stay Safe !!

[HiTech RedNeck]

I have started wearing my ankle rig with the little TiLite S&W 317 .22 snub nose with a small 50 round box of custom .22 ammo that I reworked with a Paco Kelly "tool".

Well shee-oot, you can only get 50 shots out of that. Then you have to go home and make more custom ammunition. That'll git you killed every time.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You're making the incorrect assumption that the militias are compsed of thoughtful, compassionate, concerned and rational people who are eager to help.

In reality, you'll not find a larger collection of nitwits, slackwits and halfwits, who belong only because it means that somehow, somedy, they might actually get a chance to shoot somebody - the browner the better.