Torture of Christians in China -- Photos - Not Graphic

MSTKG ^ | 3-17-03 | self

[tallhappy]

These are pictures of house church members in Henan province being tortured by People's Armed Police and Public security squad.

See link for all pictures

Pictures were provided by a Chinese group in New York.

They are giving them to the UN's Human Rights committee -- a lot of good that will do them.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[MeekOneGOP]

How so very awful! G-r-r-r-r! . . .

[tallhappy]

Yes. You have to look at all of them.

If I have time maybe I can post all of them here.

[tallhappy]

ACTUALLY, China is very averse to negative publicity of any kind. Especially anything that makes them look backward and evil.

Yes. Good point. The Communists don't want people to know how depraved and barbaric they are. They worked hard to propagandize that it's "it's different now."

Regardless of the facts.

What is that supposed to mean?

[tallhappy]

Thanks. No time now to write now, but thanks.

[Quix]

QX: ACTUALLY, China is very averse to negative publicity of any kind. Especially anything that makes them look backward and evil.

TH: Yes. Good point. The Communists don't want people to know how depraved and barbaric they are. They worked hard to propagandize that it's "it's different now."

QX: Regardless of the facts.

What is that supposed to mean?

QX: THEY don't want to be seen as backward, evil and barbaric even if they abundantly are. Though, I would add, that most are not. Most even Party members have been captivated with the better American values they are aware of. Many have studied the Declaration of Independence etc. very closely. They really have been groping around for years to come up with a flavor of democracy [or any other modern, less tyrannical mode of government] that would fly in China without causing major social upheavals.

Now, certainly, there are die hards from the Long March still hobbling around and even some other "true believers" in the Party who would like to return to rigid Stalinism. But they are really in a shrinking minority. But Plenty are still in enough power to cause trouble, for sure.

Much appreciated your kind response.

[DoctorMichael]

I hadn't seen this Thread with everything else going on..........Bump. Let's not forget that there are OTHER brutish regimes still in existence.

[ApesForEvolution]

Hug a commie til their eyeballs pop out BTTT.

[Enemy Of The State]

Interesting and sad.

I may not be a Christian but I strongly believe that anyone and everyone should be able to practice their way of faith without being restricted by anyone else or any form of government. (ironically, this is why I also support separation of Church and State)

I was surprised when I first met my Fiancé and she told me that she was a Christian. Upon hearing this, I asked her what denomination of Christianity she belonged to, she simply replied..."I'm just a Christian, I believe in Jesus and I that's all that matters to me."

Later, she told me that she had never attended a "real" church, only meetings that were held in private by others who shared the same belief as her and that she hoped I could take her to church every Sunday whenever we returned to America.

Anyway, I find disgustingly pathetic that the Chinese government continues to claim that they promote freedom of religion in their country at the very same time they are instigating various forms of oppression against it in the countryside's.

The Chinese government claims that they allow their people to practice their own faith freely as long as it has been approved of by the state.

That is very ironic because to me a state dictated religion is nothing more than a cult, something they accuse the Falun Gong of being and thereby either putting their members to death or shipping them off to some "reeducation" camp..

My time in China has certainly made me appreciate what I have in the states a lot more.

[Enemy Of The State]

"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

~Ayn Rand

[Enemy Of The State]

Re:#33 oops...sorry, right reply, wrong thread!

I guess it is rather fitting though...

Regards!

[tallhappy]

I may not be a Christian but I strongly believe that anyone and everyone should be able to practice their way of faith without being restricted by anyone else or any form of government.

Me too. That's why I think Falun Gong, which to my mind is weird stuff, should not be tortured either.

I get angry and have little patience when sometiomes Christians do not seem to care, or worse, about Falun Gong perescution.

[tallhappy]

Yeah, it is fitting.

[ibheath]

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[FreepForever]

Thanks for posting this, tallhappy. Please follow this link:

http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/3/3/17/n287785.htm

It has both English and Chinese commentaries. Perhaps you can copy them and post it here for the Freepers.

[FreepForever]

Re you #32.

The Chinese Communist Party cannot tolerate any religion because they are the biggest and most evil cult existed in human history. They want the people to see them as gods. How can they allow other religions to contest their authority and untouchable position?

[FreepForever]

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