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Torture of Christians in China -- Photos - Not Graphic
MSTKG ^ | 3-17-03 | self

Posted on 03/18/2003 6:19:05 PM PST by tallhappy

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To: Maeve
Thanks for the heads up!
21 posted on 03/18/2003 9:50:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Maeve
How so very awful! G-r-r-r-r! . . .
22 posted on 03/19/2003 6:05:25 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: sandyeggo; aimhigh
Yes. You have to look at all of them.

If I have time maybe I can post all of them here.

25 posted on 03/19/2003 7:33:39 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Quix
ACTUALLY, China is very averse to negative publicity of any kind. Especially anything that makes them look backward and evil.

Yes. Good point. The Communists don't want people to know how depraved and barbaric they are. They worked hard to propagandize that it's "it's different now."

Regardless of the facts.

What is that supposed to mean?

26 posted on 03/19/2003 7:36:57 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: sandyeggo
Thanks. No time now to write now, but thanks.
28 posted on 03/19/2003 7:54:12 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
QX: ACTUALLY, China is very averse to negative publicity of any kind. Especially anything that makes them look backward and evil.

TH: Yes. Good point. The Communists don't want people to know how depraved and barbaric they are. They worked hard to propagandize that it's "it's different now."

QX: Regardless of the facts.

What is that supposed to mean?

QX: THEY don't want to be seen as backward, evil and barbaric even if they abundantly are. Though, I would add, that most are not. Most even Party members have been captivated with the better American values they are aware of. Many have studied the Declaration of Independence etc. very closely. They really have been groping around for years to come up with a flavor of democracy [or any other modern, less tyrannical mode of government] that would fly in China without causing major social upheavals.

Now, certainly, there are die hards from the Long March still hobbling around and even some other "true believers" in the Party who would like to return to rigid Stalinism. But they are really in a shrinking minority. But Plenty are still in enough power to cause trouble, for sure.

Much appreciated your kind response.

29 posted on 03/19/2003 11:30:00 AM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: tallhappy
I hadn't seen this Thread with everything else going on..........Bump. Let's not forget that there are OTHER brutish regimes still in existence.
30 posted on 03/19/2003 5:07:22 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Liberalism = Evil)
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To: tallhappy
Hug a commie til their eyeballs pop out BTTT.
31 posted on 06/23/2003 12:33:39 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: tallhappy
Interesting and sad.

I may not be a Christian but I strongly believe that anyone and everyone should be able to practice their way of faith without being restricted by anyone else or any form of government. (ironically, this is why I also support separation of Church and State)

I was surprised when I first met my Fiancé and she told me that she was a Christian. Upon hearing this, I asked her what denomination of Christianity she belonged to, she simply replied..."I'm just a Christian, I believe in Jesus and I that's all that matters to me."

Later, she told me that she had never attended a "real" church, only meetings that were held in private by others who shared the same belief as her and that she hoped I could take her to church every Sunday whenever we returned to America.

Anyway, I find disgustingly pathetic that the Chinese government continues to claim that they promote freedom of religion in their country at the very same time they are instigating various forms of oppression against it in the countryside's.

The Chinese government claims that they allow their people to practice their own faith freely as long as it has been approved of by the state.

That is very ironic because to me a state dictated religion is nothing more than a cult, something they accuse the Falun Gong of being and thereby either putting their members to death or shipping them off to some "reeducation" camp..

My time in China has certainly made me appreciate what I have in the states a lot more.
32 posted on 06/23/2003 5:12:00 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (Common sense is instinct, and enough of it is genius.)
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To: tallhappy
"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

~Ayn Rand
33 posted on 06/23/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (Common sense is instinct, and enough of it is genius.)
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To: tallhappy
Re:#33 oops...sorry, right reply, wrong thread!

I guess it is rather fitting though...

Regards!
34 posted on 06/23/2003 5:18:42 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (Common sense is instinct, and enough of it is genius.)
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To: Enemy Of The State
I may not be a Christian but I strongly believe that anyone and everyone should be able to practice their way of faith without being restricted by anyone else or any form of government.

Me too. That's why I think Falun Gong, which to my mind is weird stuff, should not be tortured either.

I get angry and have little patience when sometiomes Christians do not seem to care, or worse, about Falun Gong perescution.

35 posted on 06/23/2003 5:35:06 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Enemy Of The State
Yeah, it is fitting.
36 posted on 06/23/2003 5:35:36 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
bookmark
37 posted on 08/05/2003 9:23:06 AM PDT by ibheath (Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
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To: tallhappy; Quix
Thanks for posting this, tallhappy. Please follow this link:

http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/3/3/17/n287785.htm

It has both English and Chinese commentaries. Perhaps you can copy them and post it here for the Freepers.
38 posted on 08/05/2003 8:29:25 PM PDT by FreepForever (Communist China is the hub of all evil)
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To: Enemy Of The State; tallhappy
Re you #32.

The Chinese Communist Party cannot tolerate any religion because they are the biggest and most evil cult existed in human history. They want the people to see them as gods. How can they allow other religions to contest their authority and untouchable position?
39 posted on 08/05/2003 8:39:33 PM PDT by FreepForever (Communist China is the hub of all evil)
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To: dr_who_2; attagirl; NewCenturions; BlessedBeGod; *Catholic_list; *China stuff
PING
40 posted on 08/05/2003 8:48:42 PM PDT by FreepForever (Communist China is the hub of all evil)
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