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PRO-ABORTION REPUBLICANS COVER THEIR TRACKS

Posted on 03/18/2003 6:06:56 AM PST by SUSSA

PRO-ABORTION REPUBLICANS COVER THEIR TRACKS

The Senate passed a bill that will outlaw partial birth abortion. However, pro-abortion Republicans joined Democrats in adding an amendment that may kill the legislation.

Included in the Senate bill is a resolution saying that says Roe v Wade "was appropriate and secures an important constitutional right." It also says that the infamous decision should not be overturned.

Without this amendment, the bill could be taken by the House and passed in very short order. However, the House is never going to pass this with this ridiculous resolution in it. They will therefore write their own bill. They will pass a bill that does not say baby killing is an important constitutional right.

This means that the two bills will have to go to a House/Senate conference committee where committee members will try to work out a compromise bill that will then be sent back to both the Senate and the House for another vote. If no compromise can be reached the bill will die in the committee.

This legislative trickery allows Senators to vote for passage of the final bill while working to kill the legislation. It is important to two Senators in particular. They are Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX).

Specter is a radical leftist that couldn't even vote to convict Clinton in the impeachment "trial". Specter is one of the most liberal Republicans in the Senate. He is pro-abortion but this year he faces a stiff challenge from a conservative opponent.

By voting for both the killer amendment and for passage of the whole bill, Specter can claim he voted to stop the baby killing, while, if not killing the bill, at least slowing its passage. He can hide his support for baby killing and point to his vote to pass the whole bill as proof that he is trying to save babies.

Kay Bailey Hutchison is in a little different situation. Currently no conservative is in place to challenge her reelection. Still, she has to be careful how she votes to cover her leftist agenda.

In 1996 the Texas Republican State Convention voted to block Hutchison from being a delegate to the Republican National Convention because of her pro-abortion votes. Hutchison eventually was made a delegate when pro-life forces backed down after Phil Gramm threatened to boycott the convention if Hutchison was excluded.

My suggestion at the time was to Tell Senator Gramm that he was welcome to accept his seat as a delegate or not. He was more than welcome, but Hutchison was not. The delegates didn't listen, and caved in, allowing Hutchison skate out of paying for her votes. Had the pro-life delegates held firm, we could have replaced Hutchison with a pro-life conservative.

Hutchison will claim she voted for the banning partial birth abortion and the liberal, elite press will say nothing about her vote declaring baby killing "an important constitutional right." Few Texans will ever know Hutchison voted for this amendment.

Hutchison remains a stealth liberal because she enjoys cover from the Texas media. Few Texans know that Hutchison was the leader in fighting against the House Republican's Contract With America's attempt to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the group that repeatedly sponsors pornographic and anti-Christian "art". She led the fight to maintain the Wright Amendment that keeps airfares in Dallas unconscionably high.

She also fought to preserve the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Department of Education and Amtrak. Hutchison never saw a government program she didn't want to support no matter how wasteful or repugnant the program is.

Hutchison is the pro-pornography, pro-abortion, Senator from American Airlines. She is part of the Specter, Chaffee, Collins, Snow wing of the party and an embarrassment to Texas. Pennsylvania Republicans are fielding a conservative challenger to try to rid themselves of their liberal Senator. Texas conservatives should do the same.

The sooner Specter, Hutchison, Chaffee, Collins, and Snow are out of office the better the party and the country will be.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; pbabanvote2003; proabortrinos; prolife
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This was no meaningless vote. It is an attempt to derail the legislation. Anything can happen to legislation in a conference committee. Lots of legislation dies in these committees.

This vote was a cynical ploy to allow the pro-abortion Senators to go home and say they voted to stop killing babies when in fact their votes prolonged the slaughter. By saying Roe v Wade “was rightly decided” and “protects an important constitutional right”, this amendment declares baby killing on a par with free speech and the right to worship as one pleases. It is a slap in the face to all who believe in protecting innocent babies.

The Senators who voted for this crap need to face the wrath of the voters.

1 posted on 03/18/2003 6:06:56 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
If you really want to be cynical, just go back and re-play Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum's compelling statements on this topic during the Senate debate over the bill.

Then try to understand how a pro-lifer in New Jersey must have felt a few years ago when that moron came around campaigning for Christie Whitman, the most radical pro-abortion politician (from either party) in the entire country.

2 posted on 03/18/2003 6:11:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
I never understood how Senator Santorum could bring himself to campaign for Whitman.
3 posted on 03/18/2003 6:18:48 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Alberta's Child
I don't think it will be derailed by this amendment. The House almost overrode Clinton's veto twice before, lacking only a couple of votes.

It will pass but NOW will take it immediately to the Supreme Court.

4 posted on 03/18/2003 6:22:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau (Hillary: Constitutional Scholar! NOT)
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To: Sacajaweau
There is no worry that the House will not pass a bill. They will not pass a bill that says abortion is an important constitutional right. That means the two bills go to a House Senate conference committee where anything can happen. Much mischief is done in these conference committees. Anything can happen there.

If the Senate refuses to remove the amendment, and the House refuses to pass legislation saying Roe v wade was rightly decided and that abortion is an important constitutional right, the bill will die.
5 posted on 03/18/2003 6:29:50 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
I never understood how Senator Santorum could bring himself to campaign for Whitman.

In the words of one wise old man I once knew, "Every whore has a price."

6 posted on 03/18/2003 6:36:27 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
That is very true. Still, I can't help being disappointed in him.
7 posted on 03/18/2003 6:43:37 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
It is out job, as pro-life Americans, to parent this Senate Bill, S 3, along the process of removing the mischief of Sen Harkin and thus to repudiate the complicity of Snowe, Collins, Specter, et al. You have hit the heart of the problem ... Harkin's seemingly non-binding offering has actually 'codified' the wrongness of the Roe decision. Thank you for this posting. I shall also be hounding the House members and Committee members to eliminate this Harkin nullity to the fact of the S 3.
8 posted on 03/18/2003 6:57:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks! We all need to get after this.
9 posted on 03/18/2003 7:32:13 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: All
This amendment passed by just 2 votes. Here is how all senators voted.

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Harkin Amdt. No. 260 )
Vote Number: 48 Vote Date: March 12, 2003, 04:03 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 260 to S. 3 (Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 )
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate concerning the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade.
Vote Counts: YEAs 52
NAYs 46
Not Voting 2
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Allen (R-VA), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Biden (D-DE), Not Voting
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burns (R-MT), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Coleman (R-MN), Nay
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Corzine (D-NJ), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Nay
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fitzgerald (R-IL), Nay
Frist (R-TN), Nay
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Nay
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Nay
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Not Voting
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Miller (D-GA), Nay
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Nay
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Smith (R-OR), Nay
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Nay
Talent (R-MO), Nay
Thomas (R-WY), Nay
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---52
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---46
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)

Not Voting - 2
Biden (D-DE)
McConnell (R-KY)

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped by Home State Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Nay
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Not Voting Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Graham (D-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Miller (D-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Fitzgerald (R-IL), Nay
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Not Voting
Louisiana: Breaux (D-LA), Nay Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Dayton (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Nay
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Nay Talent (R-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Burns (R-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay Sununu (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Corzine (D-NJ), Yea Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Dole (R-NC), Nay Edwards (D-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Oklahoma: Inhofe (R-OK), Nay Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Santorum (R-PA), Nay Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Nay Hollings (D-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Daschle (D-SD), Yea Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Frist (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Virginia: Allen (R-VA), Nay Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Enzi (R-WY), Nay Thomas (R-WY), Nay
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State




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10 posted on 03/18/2003 7:58:37 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: *Pro_Life; *Abortion_list
FYI
11 posted on 03/18/2003 8:32:54 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
fyi
12 posted on 03/18/2003 9:55:53 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA; Bigun
SUSSA, thank you so much for this ping. Please continue to ping me on this issue. I'm no fan of Kay Bailey Hutchison. Her votes speak louder than her words and some of us do keep track of them. Is there anyone in the background planning to run against her? We must get a pro-life R in the Senate!

SUSSA, will I see you on Saturday at the I LOVE AMERICA RALLY in Dallas? *smile* (check your e-mail)

13 posted on 03/18/2003 10:55:03 AM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Three rights make a LEFT)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
I wish there were a conservative ready to run against her. I just don't see one. She gets cover from the liberal Texas press and from the Texas GOP so I fear we are stuck with her until more people find out how bad she is.
14 posted on 03/18/2003 11:04:25 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
I'm going to try to get there. Can't say for sure yet.
15 posted on 03/18/2003 11:05:22 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
"I never understood how Senator Santorum could bring himself to campaign for Whitman."

Perhaps he agreed with her on other issues like cutting taxes or which party should have majority control. Perhaps he just liked the 'rat candidate less.

It is a sad when some pro-life supporters are so blind to reality that they feel they must bad mouth a man who has lead the charge against partial birth abortion in the U.S.

If most Americans supported an end to Roe V Wade we would not need brave Republicans like Santorum, because the people would demand an end to abortion.

You and the fellow above you do your cause a disservice
16 posted on 03/18/2003 12:03:47 PM PST by Once-Ler (I vote Dubya)
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To: Once-Ler
I didn't bad mouth him. I just said I was disappointed in him. I can be disappointed in someone and still support them.

In fact it is only people one respects that one can be disappointed in. Nothing Clinton ever did was disappointing to me because I expected no better from him. The same with Whitman. I was never disappointed in her because I never expected any better out of her.

Senator Santorum is a different story. I expect better from him and when he doesn't live up to my high expectations I get disappointed. Sort of like when my grandson brought home a B once. I was disappointed because I expected better.
17 posted on 03/18/2003 12:21:19 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
"I didn't bad mouth him."

Bad mouth is incorrect? is critisize ok? Whatever.

I almost never critisize a Republican for supporting a Republican candidate who was chosen by the primary voters.

Seems like some people are confused when Santorum prefers a liberal Republican over a socialist 'rat. I am not like those people, because before abortion, before taxes, before declarations of war...the most important vote of all in the US Senate is who do you support for Majority Leader. In most cases without that control...the other votes don't mean squat.
18 posted on 03/18/2003 12:33:06 PM PST by Once-Ler (I vote Dubya)
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To: Once-Ler
You are free to look at it any way you want. I can't help being disappointed in people I respect when they do something that I don't like. So beat me up for it if you like, but I'm too old to change that.
19 posted on 03/18/2003 12:43:54 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
"So beat me up for it if you like"

Huh? I thought I was expressing my opinion. As a matter of fact I'm sure I was expressing my opinion...could you point out to me where I have beaten you up, please.
20 posted on 03/18/2003 12:53:18 PM PST by Once-Ler (I vote Dubya)
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