Most blacks oppose war in Iraq [diatribe how Bush to attack people of color and defund programs]

THE JOURNAL NEWS ^ | March 14, 2003 | NOREEN O'DONNELL

[stand watie]

despite the historical racism & maltreatment of "persons of colour", we "non-whites" have rallied to the colors EVERY time the trumpet sounded in numbers far greater than our percentage in the nation!

free dixie,sw

[meandog]

Why is it, when I talk to A-A military members they seem to be 100 percent behind the president? Perhaps those A-As in uniform should be redesignated "All-American"!

[mhking]

A friend of mine married a white woman from South Africa and she is now an American citizen, but she is not an African-American.

Don't believe that - she is an African-American, as far as I'm concerned. She's from Africa. I've never been (neither have my parents or grandparents). She's got far more right to the term than I ever could.

[xzins]

The US Military is home to a huge population of warriors who have minority heritage.....black, hispanic, native, etc.

The "people of color" who count are those who will be on the lines LEADING the liberation of Iraq!

[alaskanfan]

I only mentioned it because it caused some consternation on the part of the public official present when she filled out the application for her marriage license and marked the box African-American.

[Jhensy]

So proud of my local paper. This kind of crap appears day after day after day. Westchester County, NY, home of the worst form of pampered, clueless, Oprah-fied, PC, shrill, elitist, limousine liberal (yet SUV-driving and closet racist) soccer moms on earth, as typified by Hillary and Nita Lowey.

[T Lady]

"I'm dumbfounded."

...So am I, and I AM Black; as black and female as they come.

Let me get this straight: If you are Black, serve in the military (which I did as a Navy enlisted for twenty years) then you are nothing more than cannon fodder to President Bush, who has not one, not two, but THREE Black Americans in prominent posistions in his Administration.

Ol' Terry McAuliffe and the DNC's got these folks trained like good little parakeets; they all talk on cue, rehashing every single tired, worn out DNC Talking Point. 'Scuse me while I hurl.

-Regards, T.

[astounded]

To all of the blacks and other idiots who are propagating this nonsense: Iraqis are not, read, not, "people of color". They come from many different lines but are not "people of color", just like Persians (Iranians) are not arabs yet are too often lumped in with the latter. Many, many Iraqis are fair-skinned, like some Puerto Ricans, Spanish, Italians, and others who are stereotypically "swarthy types". Drop this bullsh** on race and get on with it. Typical, though, of the ilk.

[WaveThatFlag]

Nita Lowey is the poster-child for re-districting outrages. According to the congressional districting map (which I double-dog-dare to find ANYWHERE on the internet) NY's 18th district (Westchester) includes parts of the Bronx, and urban areas in Rockland and Putnam county. Affluent areas along the Hudson river are transeferred from Westchester to the 17th district in Putnam. The net result? Nita Lowey's Westchester is 40% minority. The Westchester that I live in is more like 20%, but Nita's not complaining. The limosine liberals are irritating, but they are not the problem. Al Gore received 60% of the vote in the 18th district, because 40% of the population would have voted Democrat if Stephen Douglas were running.

Seriously though, try to find that map on the interent. The fact that it is so hard to find is thought-provoking.

[WaveThatFlag]

Actually credit for the original and total debunking -complete with charts and figures- goes back to the Wall Street Journal article from some time ago. There is a thread on it somewhere.

[JoeSchem]

Marc Edwards could not be more appalled as he watches President Bush push ahead with plans for war.

How did he feel when it came out that President Clinton was being 'serviced' by Monica at the same time he was on a phone call with a Congressman discussing troop deployments in Bosnia? At least, when Bush commits troops to a foreign nation, he devotes his full attention to an issue which will be life and death for the people involved. For Clinton, it was all a game.

[Liz]

Face it, mh, they are not at all as intelligent, perceptive, analytical, and, of course, conservative, as you are.

[Lijahsbubbe]

There's another side that this story feeds into, and that's for the whites that want to believe this junk. Alot of people swallow the monolithic bait hook, line and sinker.

It only serves to strengthen divisions among blacks and whites and perpetuate the liberal propaganda thereby weakening the conservative movement.

[WaveThatFlag]

Liz,
I hope you are not making racial generalizations. Dumb white liberals outnumber by far dumb black ones.

[RipSawyer]

"The Iraqis are not arabs. They are, in fact, caucasian."

Last time I checked Arabs were Caucasian too.

[Liz]

I stand corrected. So right.

[doug from upland]

These idiots had grandparents saying: what has Hitler done to us?...negotiate with Hitler, don't bomb him...Jews here in the U.S. are just making up the atrocities...Hitler will stop at Poland...look, he wants peace just like we do...Hitler is not building up his military...the cost of attacking Hitler will be just too expensive

[presidio9]

These idiots had grandparents saying: what has Hitler done to us?...negotiate with Hitler, don't bomb him...Jews here in the U.S. are just making up the atrocities...Hitler will stop at Poland...look, he wants peace just like we do...Hitler is not building up his military...the cost of attacking Hitler will be just too expensive

Intersting documentary on the M1 Abrams tank on the History Channel last night. It was pointed out that prior to the first Gulf War (when did the Iran-Iraq war stop being "The Gulf War"?) the Abrams had nver been used in battle. The Iraqi tanks had. Successfully. The Republican Guard really believed that when it came to a ground war, they would win. Not that we would be pushovers, mind you. Just that they would beat us.

Rewind back to the years before WWII. When you think about the populations and the economies Germany Japan and Italy chose to antagonize, they should have had no chance. I know that we were in the middle of a Depression, but so was everybody. So how did the these three countries rule half of the industrialized world for 5 years? Appeasement.

[shrinkermd]

What is this Black History month? I have visit both Baghdad and Tehran: I can assure you the locals are not Black. If nothing else, see below:

"In the springtime of 51 BC, Ptolemy Auletes died and left his kingdom in his will to his eighteen year old daughter, Cleopatra, and her younger brother Ptolemy XIII who was twelve at the time. Cleopatra was born in 69 BC in Alexandria, Egypt. She had two older sisters, Cleopatra VI and Berenice IV as well as a younger sister, Arsinoe IV. There were two younger brothers as well, Ptolemy XIII and Ptolemy XIV." [These folks were Greeks and were certainly not black.]

In respect to Hannibal, you can see a likeness of him at http://i-cias.com/e.o/hannibal.htm. He was a Phonecian and certainly was not Black as well. Actually Scipio Africanus (a Roman) had more Black features than Hannibal.

As to their nationality I refer you to the following: Ethnic groups: Arab 75%-80%, Kurdish 15%-20%, Turkoman, Assyrian or other 5%. This is from a geography text. They are not Persian, but their is a predominance of Shiites.

[hoosierskypilot]

I dunno. Nine out of 10 blacks voted for Gore. They still think Clinton, next to Lincoln, was the greatest prez we've ever had.