Posted on 03/11/2003 3:57:59 AM PST by OXENinFLA
LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up flags, flowers and patriotic signs at a Sept. 11 memorial that residents erected on a fence along Whittier Boulevard days after the terrorist attacks in 2001 and have maintained ever since.
However, although officers witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, police did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday.
"For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent,' he said.
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But I would disagree with your comment about the Free Republic, as this is actually a very credible source, with reporters, or posters if you will, all over this great country. Instead of a radio show where you listen, you get the real, man on the street comments here. Not all are top shelf comments, but most are credible, and from real Americans that care.
Your right about La Habra the thing is if you dont know the area you get different impressions
The little downtown area on Lambert has gone to hell
But up on Imperial and Beach there building million dollar homes and the new West Hills golf course and shopping complex ( Big bucks)
I live in the next to La Habra in La Mirada
OMFG BUMP! This guy is a cop???? Sir, with all due respect, your an effing idiot. Free Speech in no way gives you a right to vandalize.
I live a couple of miles away from the memorial and pass it almost daily. (It was a beautiful work of art.) What's even more galling is that the La Habra cops are well-known for being real hard-noses around here. They usually tag you for even the tiniest violation.
Obviously they've been attacked by the PC bug. Truly disgusting.
FR can claim credit for lots of good things that happen in our communities.....and that is ALL I'm saying. You are ridiculous, DT, to not think that our actions do not have an effect; as pertains to the instant case, the PD received calls from FReepers as far away as Germany; e-mails were sent by multiple individuals, multiple times, to Hannity, O'Reilly, CNN, the PD, to name a few. Additionally, calls were placed to the writer of this article to confirm/clarify what was said, and this, again, resulted in further communications, via e-mails, to other individuals/friends/organizations.
Statistics show that for each complaint received, one complaint represents 100 people who don't take the time or make the effort to write or call. FR has, at the very least, hundreds of individuals who actively participate in rallies/e-mail writing & forwarding/telephone calling.
Because WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE, and we know it, that does not = claiming to find a cure for cancer. And we aren't the only ones who know this; FR, and many of its members, has received more and more positive publicity and recognition, as a force to be reckoned with.
And, yes, there is a cancer which has infected and permeated American society: it's called liberal socialism. And FReepers are helping get rid of that......sure is better to focus on the facts than listen to people like you deride our good works and ridicule the simple delight and satisfaction we take in knowing the good we are doing.
Thanks for saying that. I'm from Whittier. I'd like to see these morons try that here, they'd get their a***s beat.
Vandals hit memorial
Angry residents prompt police to inspect defacing of 9/11 tribute
By Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell
Staff writer LA HABRA At the center of an angry public opinion storm, La Habra police on Tuesday said they are conducting a criminal investigation into weekend vandalism at a 9/11 memorial fence.Police said as soon as the probe is completed they will take their evidence to the Orange County District Attorney to determine if a complaint will be issued.
Early after the vandalism, residents near the memorial accused the Police Department of not taking adequate action when they first spotted people altering patriotic signs on the fence Saturday afternoon. The police reportedly determined at first that the sign alteration was more free expression than a case of vandalism, so they went away.
However, they said the activity later escalated into flag burning and replacing patriotic signs on the fence with antiwar slogans, which did qualify as acts of vandalism.
On Tuesday, Police Chief Dennis Kies stood behind the department's handling of the case.
"We did not observe anybody tearing flags or burning flags,' he said. "The first call we got on this was at 3 p.m Saturday. There were these cups stuck in the fence that spelled out something like 'We Love The USA,' and a woman was rearranging them to read something like 'No War.' She was not burning or tearing up anything at that time.'
Since the woman was not destroying anything, officers left without making an arrest or writing a police report.
Kies said his officers were called to the scene at Whittier Boulevard and Macy Street again at 5 p.m., Saturday and again at 3 p.m. on Sunday.
Officers found damage to the display on both occasions but found no one but Tracey Chandler, who maintains the patriotic fence, and her friends near the location.
"On vandalism, a misdemeanor offense, we can't arrest anyone unless it happens in front of us,' Kies said.
Chandler, who started maintaining the memorial soon after it was initiated by neighbors the night of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, believes the same people who were at the fence earlier in the day came back later that night and burned the flags.
Jeff Collison, owner of The RV Center in La Habra, who has allowed Chandler and other residents to fill his fence with patriotic symbols, said he and Chandler plan to go to the police station today to file charges.
David Bisset of Whittier, who has contributed to the memorial since the evening of 9/11, said he will continue to do so, as another Whittier resident, Dusty Rhodes, came by with a pile of flags. "I was in the military myself for seven years, so for someone to burn my flag, well that burns my butt,' said Rhodes.
Chandler, who started pinning new 9/11 tribute posters made by her two children to the fence on Tuesday, is determined to rebuild the memorial. "It will be done by the end of the week, bigger and better than it ever was,' she said.
Um...possible Code Pink alert? The woman admits it on TV? Trying to get arrested on purpose?
Seriously. I smell a big rat here. I have just read that a 9/11 memorial was destroyed here in NYC too. It happened yesterday, the eighteen-month anniversary of 9/11. If this is a coincidence, it's too weird.
9-11 memorial trashed by vandals is restored
By CAROLINE PRADO
The Orange County Register
A TRIBUTE: Suzy Johnson and her twin children Alec, left, and Lindsay, both 10 put a new sign on the fence as part of a 9-11 memorial at Macy Street and Whittier Boulevard in La Habra.LA HABRA A steady stream of angry residents gathered Tuesday at a Sept. 11 memorial trashed by vandals over the weekend, replacing burned flags and criticizing police for failing to prevent what they believe is a war protest gone too far.
Visitors posted more than 130 flags on a chain-link fence to replace 87 burned Sunday and laid 11 flags where stepping stones decorated by children had been smashed.
They lingered into the evening at the Macy Street and Whittier Boulevard site as passing cars honked horns.
"I have nothing but contempt for people who desecrate a tribute to the people who died," said Dan Brasher, a La Habra resident who brought a flag. "It was a comfort driving by and seeing this symbol here and being able to take pride in our country," resident Roberta Bryant said.
At about 8 p.m., some 25 visitors surrounded a teenage girl who showed up to claim responsibility for burning two flags. They argued until police showed up to question her.
Witnesses say the flag burning occurred about 1:20 a.m. Sunday. It followed problems that brought police to the memorial twice Saturday. At 3 p.m. Saturday, officers interrupted a group of anti- war demonstrators who were rearranging red, white and blue cups - which initially spelled out "Support our troops" in the fence - into an anti-war statement.
The protesters left on their own. Police did not take down their names, saying they viewed the initial incident as a matter of free speech. About 5 p.m. Saturday, police returned when the memorial's caretaker, Whittier resident Tracey Chandler, reported that seven flags had been ripped down....
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I know, I was laughing too. (I used to live right around the corner from the memorial a few years ago.)
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