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URGENT: DISABLED VET TO MAKE HISTORY AS FIRST FLORIDA HOMESTEAD TO BE CONFISCATED VIA EMINENT DOMAIN
The Golden Gate Gazette ^ | March 10, 2003 | Kaydee Tuff

Posted on 03/10/2003 5:26:01 AM PST by AAABEST

David will take on Goliath, Mar. 13, as Southern Golden Gate Estates property owner Jesse Hardy fights the state of Florida for 160 acres of land he has called home for 27 years.

Located in what is called the "Hole in the Donut," the property is part of the state's 55,000-acre buy-out to restore natural water flows to the SGGE, once slated for development.

Hardy says his property is not necessary to the restoration project and will not be adversely affected by it.

"I'm not against any of the environmentalists' work to re-hydrate the Southern Golden Gate Estates," he says. "I'm all for it. The more water, the happier I will be. I'm not trying to stop anything. I just want to keep my home."

The 67-year-old Florida native homesteaded the rustic property in 1976. Using propane and a gas-powered generator, he lives in a tiny wood frame home with his seven-year-old son. Despite talk of offers of up to $5 million, Hardy says he has no plans to sell his property for any price.

"Living here is what has kept me going," he says. "It's my home. I'm too old to go anywhere else."

Hardy is one of three property owners holding out on the state's quest to purchase the final 4,000 acres of the buy-out, which has cost $90 million thus far.

Last month, the governor and Cabinet were asked to initiate condemnation proceedings on Hardy's property. If approved, it would be the first time the state has ever used eminent domain to take homesteaded land. Instead, the Cabinet directed the Department of Environmental Protection land acquisition agents to negotiate with property owners.

Hardy says it won't make any difference. He has no plans to sell his property for any price.

"My attorney asked me if there is any dollar amount I would take for my property. I told him, ‘no,'" he says, "My attorney said, ‘Don't be surprised if the Cabinet grants eminent domain.' He said it will be up to me to get the information to the governor to stop it."

Hardy is hopeful area residents will show their support by writing letters asking the governor not to grant eminent domain and allow him to keep his land.

Estates resident Cindy Kemp, founding member of the Property Rights Action Committee (PRAC), says the group hopes to assist Hardy in his quest. She says PRAC has connections with other property groups across the nation and a letter writing campaign is underway.

A special gathering to meet Hardy and hear his story will be held at 2 p.m., Sunday, Mar. 9, at his property. For directions, call 352-9033.

"He has such an interesting story," Kemp says. "People need to hear it to fully understand his situation."

At an elevation of 11-13 feet, Hardy says his property will never be affected by the restoration project. He says he doesn't understand why the state is insisting on buying him out.

"It was willing buyer, willing seller," he says. "It was always willing buyer, willing seller. It was a CARL project for the benefit of the people of Collier County. If they shut it off to where people can't use it, how is that a benefit to the people of Collier County?"

Hardy says he is frustrated by a lack of reasons as to why he is being forced to sell his land.

"They haven't given me no reason for wanting me out," he says. "They made their deal with everyone else, but here it's like they want it all."

A disabled Navy SEAL, Hardy says the money doesn't matter to him.

"It's my home and it means more to me than the money. If it (condemnation) was for something useful to the public health and well-being, like a school, a fire station, or a hospital, I would move with no problem," he says.

Nearly two years ago, Collier County gave Hardy the go-ahead to build the first of four proposed 20-acre ponds to create a fish farm. Several environmental groups including the Florida Wildlife Federation and the Collier County Audubon Society originally opposed the concept, but later agreed to support the construction of one 20-acre pond. Any future excavation will have to be re-approved by the county.

Hardy has three years to complete the first pond and have it stocked and landscaped. He says the project is currently one-third complete and the fill has been purchased by the county for road building.

He says the fish in the pond are doing well and predators have not been a problem. He hopes to one day open the area up to the public for recreational fishing.

"I'm not going to do just commercial catfish," he says. "We will have three to four different kinds of native species like bass and brim. It should be a real benefit to the people of Collier County."


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To: AuntB
I'd love $1.7M a lot more.
141 posted on 03/10/2003 4:16:04 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: AuntB
Keep up the attitude, Pappy and you may just live long enough to see it happen to you.

Lord I wish it would. I could use $1.7M. I don't have that much and I'd like to know how you guys live.

142 posted on 03/10/2003 4:17:21 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: AuntB; AAABEST
Hey AAA you thinking of Northern Calif. Range Larry. Aunt B maybe AAA is playing yentil (Mathchmaker matchmaker make me a match.)
143 posted on 03/10/2003 4:26:35 PM PST by TonyWojo
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To: AAABEST
"A disabled Navy SEAL"

Triple A, If this is true, someone should try to get in touch with SEALs. These guys could put a bee in somebody's bonnet. Peace and love, George.

144 posted on 03/10/2003 4:44:33 PM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: AppyPappy
I could use $1.7M. I don't have that much

You also don't have 160 acres and a thriving business on your property, but that's not the point.

145 posted on 03/10/2003 4:57:32 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
Yeah George, he's talked to them.

They have enough problems getting people to show up at their reunions and stuff. They're very timid about getting involved in things that could be perceived as political.

146 posted on 03/10/2003 5:00:03 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
You do know that the government will kill him if he resists, dont you?
Keep us informed about his situation.
147 posted on 03/10/2003 5:02:16 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the ping...

Because greedy Florida legislators over the years have allowed over-building to go on throughout the state in sensitive areas, suddenly it is the unassuming Mr. Hardy who is called upon to cough up and sacrifice his homestead, while the darter snake, and "rare" tree frogs get more respect than a U.S. veteran.

And funny how 'Eminent Domain' is never enforced anywhere near a Congressman, Senator, or Martin Sheen's home or town...

148 posted on 03/10/2003 5:12:36 PM PST by F16Fighter (There is NO difference between the French and Democrats.)
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To: AAABEST
"Any other useless, unhelpful or loaded questions?"

The article states that he was offered 5 million dollars. Why don't you read the article before laying into people.

149 posted on 03/10/2003 5:52:57 PM PST by MigrantOkie
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To: AAABEST
I sent this email to Jeb:

Dear Governor Bush,

Please stop the illegitimate use of eminent domain in the "hole of the donut" and the property of Mr. Hardy.

I sincerely hope you have not fallen under the spell of the Gaia worshippers, who believe we need to make reparations to animals for what's happened over the last 300+ years by setting aside land just for them, with no human presence. Those who advocate vast wilderness areas are not operating on any scientifically sound basis, but rather on religious zeal. Animals believed to need undisturbed areas have been found over and over to exist near development, and even in the suburbs.

Protect the rights that god granted us, that made us the greatest nation on earth. Don't put animal rights ahead of human rights and aid in the creation of "no humans allowed" areas.

Thank you.
150 posted on 03/10/2003 5:59:53 PM PST by Kay Ludlow
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
I agree with you, that the Everglades are worth saving; but it seems silly to me that all the money and effort is going into this problem, when our local government is still allowing overdevelopment and the impact on the environment that goes with it. Have you heard of the "black water" and "red tide" problems we've had here in SW Florida? These are algae blooms that are occurring in the Gulf of Mexico. The red tide is particularly offensive, it causes respiratory problems. Apparently the research has said these algae blooms are related to all the fertilizer runoff into the Gulf from the manicured lawns and golf courses that are in abundance here. The County keeps letting them go in, though.
151 posted on 03/10/2003 7:06:45 PM PST by Jennifer in Florida
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To: AAABEST
Yours is the typical blockhead worldview. "They told me they're saving the environment so it must be true". No facts or science, you just know what you've been told. That's why we have policy that puts turtles and frogs before children, too many morons who believe everything they're told. Keep sucking up all that green gook you've been fed. You don't know the first thing about .....the first thing. You obviously know nothing about the the Everglades, the situation in the South Estates or Florida politics.

Thanks for the personal attacks. Don't read the text, don't form a conclusion, don't think for yourself...Attack me and call me names because I DARED to question your self serving vanity post about your million dollar friend, being thrown off his land with a huge pile of money. Boo Hoo!!

You got something? Post it. I did not make this stuff up. I took the time to wipe the tear from my eye to research and read what this was all about, and link it. You respond with rhetoric, inuindo, trash talking.

My understanding of the situation, barring your millionare friend's feelings, is more than you think. I understand the history of the Everglades. I don't care about the politics of south Florida. I care about clean water for millions of people, not millions of dollars for some Vet.

152 posted on 03/10/2003 7:25:53 PM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel
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To: AppyPappy
Despite talk of offers of up to $5 million

Note: "talk" of up to $5 million. "talk" is cheap, deeds are all that matter. The point of this thread is not amounts of money but the loony greenie weenies that are trampling the rights of an individual (in this case a veteran).

153 posted on 03/10/2003 7:26:44 PM PST by zip (I love being right)
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To: TonyWojo
The Sierra Club sounds like a group you would fit into quite nicely. I hear they are looking for people to sit in trees in California.

Thanks for the advise. I will give it the consideration it deserves. If you want to speak to the issue, read the link, and then lets debate it.

FWIW, I would not consider the SFWMD and the USACE an "Environmental Group"

154 posted on 03/10/2003 7:34:09 PM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel
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To: AppyPappy
So I don't see the urgency to save a poor disabled vet who is sitting on a $Million plus

If I had a 50,000 dollar car and the state offered me 1,000 dollars for it, would you say I had to take it? There is no difference in this case. First, the state is only offering 25 to 30 percent of the value of the property, second, the value of the land is further enhanced by the selling of fill, and third,(and most important) HE DOESN'T WANT TO SELL. PERIOD.

155 posted on 03/10/2003 7:37:27 PM PST by zip (I love being right)
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To: zip
HE DOESN'T WANT TO SELL. PERIOD.

Yeah right? Why is this very simple concept so freaking hard to understand?

Used to be if they had to bulldoze a few home for an interstate, it was a big deal. Now, they can roll over thousands of property owners using "saving the environment for future generations" as the excuse for the power grab.

And we have dipsticks on a supposedly conservative forum who cheer it on, for some odd neurotic reason. It's all upside down for cripes sake.

These people are freaks.

156 posted on 03/10/2003 7:55:37 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
What about the other residents in Florida?

The ones that Klamath Falls farmers went to support.

What about the people affected by the federal heritage site programs?

What about the buffer zones around federal land?

What about the coal mines shut down by clinton?

And what about the Klamath Falls farmers?

COME ON ! People this isn't an ISOLATED INCIDENT.

It's all part of the program.

But hey let's keep hiding our heads , hoping that it won't affect us..................

CONSPIRACIES are NOT theories , they are plans. Plans people make to make gains.

READ THE TEN PLANKS OF COMMUNISM AND LOOK AT WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING. THEN SERIOUSLY ASK YOURSELF WHO THEY REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bush is throwing Gods' name around more and more , because he NEEDS you to think he is on your side to achieve his (masters) goals.

I said before his election and still say "There is not a Christian bone in bushs' body."

157 posted on 03/10/2003 8:01:09 PM PST by Eustace
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump.
158 posted on 03/10/2003 8:58:57 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: AAABEST
bump
159 posted on 03/10/2003 10:51:26 PM PST by oceanperch (Support Our Troops)
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To: AppyPappy
"Wasn't this guy offered several million dollars for the property?"

Ah yes....the class distinction over principle arguement. This is a beloved tool of the extreme left. You've been outed dude!

160 posted on 03/10/2003 10:53:35 PM PST by hove
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