Mansoor Ijaz tells Fox & Friends, "Capture of OBL Only Days or HOURS Away"

Fox and Friends ^ | 3/5/03 | LS

[LS]

Steve Doocey said on Fox this morning that he had just gotten off the phone with Mansoor Ijaz, the Pakistani-born American who has excellent connections to Pakistan, and that Ijaz said that the info they are extracting from the Sheik means that we are days, if not "hours," away from capturing OBL. They have traced his movements; they know where his wives & some kids are (Iran, where they are being "protected"), and think OBL even slipped out of the country and went to Bali prior to that bombing, traveling mostly by water.

Further, last night on O'Reilly, Ijaz also said that he has no doubt that we are using "whatever means necessary" to extract info from the Sheik. O'Reilly said "including torture?" Ijaz said, "Yes."

[GraniteStateConservative]

Yeah, I was in your camp, too, until it was widely reported that material from the raid revealed OBL was in recent communication with Sheikh.

[Sacajaweau]

It's Propaganda Time folks: Don't believe everything you read.

[Green]

I wish I could remember exactly who said this but the other day I was watching a news channel (probably Fox since that is mainly the channel I watch) and one of the guests said that his information from sources he had involved in the interrogation of this person was that he was not very forthcoming with info and it was very slow getting info out of him. Further, that he was changing his stories throughout the interrogation process. While they might not be trained to withstand interrogation, they seem to be very adept in lying and giving out false information. All you have to do is look back on the various false info that has been obtained from the interrogations at GITMO and other captured terrorists.

Also, on another subject, just yesterday a former interrogator was being interviewed and he said that physical torture is not the best method of interrogating because the captive will almost always say whatever you want them to say eventually but that does not necessarily mean it is the truth.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Someone said he's now clean-shaven and dresses as a businessman.

[dep]

ijaz is a good guy and all, but i sometimes suspect that in his enthusiasm for the enterprise he sometimes says just a little more than he knows. here's hoping that this is in no measure colored by wishful thinking.

dep

[GraniteStateConservative]

Sheikh was a big fish, too, and he didn't have much protection. I'm not convinced at all that OBL is well-protected.

[Lowcountry]

This may deserve another thread, but my question is "Should we take him alive?"

I cannot think of anything more revolting than to have another "OJ" bin Laden trial. It would be the biggest circus in the history of man. We need him in one piece..... DEAD!

[Quilla]

I think Ijaz has brought a wealth of information to the front burner. Obviously, I have no way of verifying his statements. Yesterday, swarthyguy and habaes corpussel provided a few specifics that may answer your question.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/856121/posts?q=1&&page=1

[Steel Wolf]

They have traced his movements; they know where his wives & some kids are (Iran, where they are being "protected")

This is an interesting little tidbit here. Iran's appears to have been silently helping out Al Qaeda for some time. That will be a useful card to play later. I imagine we know a lot more about Iran than we're discussing, but we'll drop a dime on them in due time.

As far as Bin Hidin, if this information has made it out to the press, then we're trying to flush him out of his hole. Usama has a pretty sizable entourage, and if they know rougly where he is, they stand a good chance of detecting his movement. Run, Usama, run!!

[Semper Paratus]

I'm not convinced at all that OBL is well-protected.

If he doesn't sleep with the worms he would have had to lose his big entourage and go incognito with only a few people.

[Straight Vermonter]

 

Its the "You Can't Tell Your Scumbags Without a Scorecard" scorecard

Name	Function	Status
SHURA MAJLIS
These are the first-tier guys and the actual members of al-Qaeda's board of directors. Any one of them is a possible successor to Osama bin Laden.
Osama bin Laden	Emir-General	Possibly killed at Tora Bora in Dec. 2001, now believed to be at large
Ayman al-Zawahiri	Second-in-Command/Egyptian Islamic Jihad Emir-General	At Large
Mohammed Atef	Supreme Military Commander	Dead
Abu Zubaydah	Global Operations Chief	Apprehended
Rifa Ahmed Taha	Gamaa al-Islamiyyah Secretary-General	At Large
Thirwat Salah Shirhata	Egyptian Islamic Jihad Deputy Emir	At Large
Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri	Middle East Operations Chief	Apprehended
Abu Musab Zarqawi	Former Southeast Asian Operations Chief, currently Global Operations Chief	At Large
Abu Zubair al-Haili	North African Operations Chief	Apprehended
Tawfiq Attash Khallad	South Asian Operations Chief	At Large
Abu Mohammed al-Masri *	East African Operations Chief	At Large
Zaid Khayr	Unknown	At Large
Mohammed Salah	Senior Explosive Expert, Central African Operations Chief	Dead
Tariq Anwar al-Sayyid Ahmad	Balkans Operations Chief	Dead
Saif al-Adel **	Former second-in-command of al-Qaeda's military, currently Supreme Military Commander	At Large
Amin al-Haq	Shura Majlis Security Chief	At Large
Abu Hafs the Mauritanian (aka "Mr. Mauritania")	Theologian	Formerly believed dead, now believed to be at large
TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP COMMANDERS
These are the guys who supervise the training, indoctrination, and assignment of al-Qaeda operatives worldwide. They also seperate all recruits into four categories: mujahideen (foot soldiers), shahideen (suicide bombers), takfiri (sleepers), and ansar (support personnel). Each category has its own version of the "Afghan Guide to Jihad," al-Qaeda's training manual (all four versions combined are roughly 3,000 pages in length) that provides instruction to recruits for just about any situation imaginable.
Sheikh Ibn al-Liby	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	Apprehended
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	Apprehended
Omar Bandon	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	At Large
THE FINANCIAL COMMITTEE
This is the committee that oversees al-Qaeda's legitimate and illegitimate businesses, charities, drug smuggling, ect. The top ten al-Qaeda donors have all been named by both the UN and the families of 9/11 victims as being the major financiers of al-Qaeda and remain at large
Sheikh Saeed (Mustafa Ahmed al-Hisawi?)	Head of the Financial Committee	Apprehended
Mohammed Jamal Khalifa	Financier and envoy to the Saudi Bin Laden Group	At Large
Abu Jafar al-Jaziri	Financier	Dead
Abu Salah al-Yemeni	Financier	Dead
Abdul Rahim Riyadh	Financier	Apprehended
Ahmed Saeed al-Kadr	Financier	At Large
Hamza al-Qatari	Financier	Dead
MEDIA COMMITTEE
This the group that manages and updates the websites, oversees the E-Jihad, and is responsible for all statements by the al-Qaeda leadership. Not a lot of declassified info on this one as far as names go.
Suleiman Abu Ghaith	Spokesman	At Large
Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri	Spokesman/Recruiter	At Large
Sheikh Omar al-Bakri	Spokesman	At Large
Sheikh Abu Qatada al-Philisteeni	Spokesman	Apprehended
WMD COMMITTEE
Al-Qaeda employs a number of Muslim scientists of various nationalities to assist it in procuring as well as manufacturing the necessary materials to create chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons.
Midhat Mursi	Top scientist for nuclear weapons research	At Large
Abu Khabab	Biological and chemical weapons expert	At Large
Assadalah Abdul Rahman	Weapons of Mass Destruction Chief	At Large
Abu Bashir al-Yemeni	Unknown	At Large
MILITARY COMMITTEE
These are the definite guys to watch out for. Most have a great deal of combat experience either from serving in Arab militaries or else from fighting in Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Indonesia, or the Philippines.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed	Martyrdom Battalion Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Abd al-Aziz al-Jamal	Unknown	At Large
Bilal bin Marwan	Arabian Sea Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi	Yemen Commander-in-Chief	Dead
Mohsen al-Fadli	Kuwait Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Essid Sami ben Khemais	Southern Europe Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Saqar al-Jadawi	Unknown	At Large
Mohammed Omar Abdel Rahman	Military Commander	Apprehended
Ahmed Omar Abdel Rahman	Military Commander	Apprehended
Abu Walid	Military Commander	At Large
Abdel Hari al-Iraqi	Afghanistan Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Abu Leith al-Lybi	Algeria/Libya Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Shamil Basayev	Chechnya Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Amir ibn al-Khattab	Dagestan Commander-in-Chief	Dead
Hanbali	Indonesia Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Imam Samudra	Java Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Mas Selamat Kastari	Singapore Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Current Tally:
Dead=8	Apprehended=15	At Large=29
Others
These are non-leader Al Qaeda members who are on the FBI most wanted list or have, in some way, come to attention..
Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Sheik Mohammed Al Hasan Al-Moayad	Financier / Cleric	Apprehended
Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed	Financier / Cleric	Apprehended
Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ali Atwa	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Hasan Izz-Al-Din	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Anas Al-Liby	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Fazul Abdullah Mohammed	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Imad Fayez Mugniyah	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Abdul Rahman Yasin	1993 WTC Bombing	At Large
Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Muhammad Atef	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Saif Al-Adel	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Current Tally:
*Note: There has been some contradictory information as to the status of this individual. Abu Mohammed al-Masri is a nom de guerre, hence one should not confuse him with the al-Qaeda functionary of the same name who was recently killed in Algeria working with the GSPC. Mossad reportedly had intelligence that al-Masri might have been one of the suicide bombers involved in the al-Qaeda attack in Mombasa, but near as I can tell the findings were not corroborated **Note: Per Knight Ridder, he may have been captured along with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. If this is indeed true it would be exceedingly good news.

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[biblewonk]

This is too exciting to think about.

[dmz]

c'mon...

your profile puts you in miami, so running around the block half naked won't even raise an eyebrow.

[Quilla]

Great chart! Personally, I like the way President Bush identifies the dead scumbags - otherwise dealt with.

[veronica]

Awesome cartoon. :))

The capture of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed has given me new hope that we will eventually catch Bin Laden.

[Dirk McQuickly]

It will happen just like Mohammed. It will be some low-level "grunt" or an observant bystander who gives him up. Now that the tide has turned dramatically, someone will be emboldened to claim the winning lottery ticket. Once bin Laden is captured, the good doctor will follow quickly, and al Qaeda will cease to exist...

This is going to be an interesting week in world history, methinks...

[latrans]

Mansoor always commands my full attention. His credibility
has proven to be substantial. He is way out on a limb with
this statement though. I hope he is right.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Geetings xJones, FReepers, et al:

We'll eat crow together. No matter what happens, GWB wins!

No body, no martyr. There is probably more OBL DNA in the backyard bird bath from condensation nuclei, than OBL DNA left in Tora Bora.

However, just portraying OBL as alive further degrades his legacy, given his cowardly retreat from Tora Bora.

Never the less, if OBL is alive, and a pretty slim likelihood for an untreated hemodialysis dependent person; capturing OBL alive would be on the level of catching OBL eating a roast pork sandwich.

And I’ll eat that crow with Tobasco Sauce.

[twigs]

I dont believe physical torture will be used.

Judge Neopolitan on FNC confirmed that. It's also not the most effective way to get information.

[LS]

Yes, I have likewise heard several police detectives, etc., say torture is not that effective. So we are getting mixed signals. Dunnigan, however, strongly emphasized that these people may be good at lying, but not at lying to well-trained interrogators who know how to trip them up and get info, even from a lie.