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MADISON WARNED US
Fiedor Report On the News #304 ^ | 3-2-03 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 03/01/2003 10:06:38 AM PST by forest

"What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?" asked James Madison in 1787. His words ring very true again today.

Later, in The Federalist #44 he wrote: "The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more industrious and less informed part of the community. They have seen, too, that one legislative interference is but the first link of a long chain of repetitions, every subsequent interference being naturally produced by the effects of the preceding."

Madison was writing about the capricious legislative actions of Great Britain. But, if we rewrote that into modern English, most Americans would identify it as describing today's federal government.

A few years ago, Business Week reported that there are more than 100,000 new laws, rules and regulations enacted in the United States each year. Between 1976 and 1986, state legislatures alone made up 248,000 new laws. And, on average, each of these laws spurred at least ten new regulations.

And that's only the state governments. The federal government is even worse. At last count, we found over 11,585 pages of IRS regulations, 11,270 pages of regulations for Agriculture, 11,808 pages for the EPA, and 5,368 for Labor, to name just a few affecting our personal activities. A quick look in a public library showed 211 fat books containing 122,027 pages of Federal regulations directly affecting American citizens.

That's 122,027 pages of regulations alone, not laws passed by Congress. And, we're responsible for obeying every damn one of them! When you also factor in federal laws, this gets way, way out of hand.

The most important function of government is the protection of the people -- to protect the free exercise of our rights and liberties. Instead, legislators and regulatory agencies seem to be trying to classify every known human activity as either prohibited or mandatory.

Worse yet, any of these rules and regulations can be arbitrarily enforced on an unsuspecting citizen at any time. And, although they might be officially labeled rules and regulations by legislators, to the citizen they have the full force of law. After all, what happens if you break one of these little bureaucratic jewels? Agents with guns come after you and courts fine you and/or put you in prison, that's what!

Madison was right. An over regulated society is not conducive to business -- and hence, to building wealth within that society. These actions by the federal government are, in effect, stymieing the welfare of the country.

Is it any wonder so many American businesses, and American jobs, are moving to less regulated countries?

 

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Why go into business if laws change overnight? Madison was writing about the capricious legislative actions of Great Britain. But, if we rewrote that into modern English, most Americans would identify it as describing today's federal government.

Over 100,000 new laws, rules and regulations are enacted in the United States each year. If we violate one, men with guns come to see us.

The most important function of government is the protection of the people -- to protect the free exercise of our rights and liberties. Instead, legislators and reg agencies seem to be classifying every known human activity as either prohibited or mandatory. Worse yet, any of these rules and regs can be enforced on unaware citizens.

Madison was right. An over regulated society is not conducive to business. Is it any wonder so many American businesses, and American jobs, are moving to less regulated countries?

1 posted on 03/01/2003 10:06:38 AM PST by forest
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To: forest
Over 100,000 new laws, rules and regulations are enacted in the United States each year. If we violate one, men with guns come to see us.

The most important function of government is the protection of the people -- to protect the free exercise of our rights and liberties. Instead, legislators and reg agencies seem to be classifying every known human activity as either prohibited or mandatory. Worse yet, any of these rules and regs can be enforced on unaware citizens.

Isn't that GO 84? George Orwell's 1984?

2 posted on 03/01/2003 10:10:05 AM PST by forest
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To: forest
Hey Doug, RonPaul's amendment is just great. It says all the stuff you have been writing, and it says all the stuff I wrote for the Klamath Basin - including terminating the national this and thats.

How much chance do you give this amendment this time around, Doug?

3 posted on 03/01/2003 10:12:17 AM PST by forest
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To: forest
Idea: everytime the government passes a law, they have to repeal one.
4 posted on 03/01/2003 10:16:04 AM PST by ellery
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To: forest
Why go into business if laws change overnight?

I see plenty of businesses here in the USA. I started two this week. I am all for less regulation, but even with it, there's good reason to go into business. What's the alternative?

5 posted on 03/01/2003 10:16:17 AM PST by Huck
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To: forest
The real sad part of this is that all citizens as individuals are required to keep these laws by punishment of fine or jail and the government and those so called elected officials are not bound by any law or rule and are not held accountable as citizens.
These elected bodies violate the law daily and are not taken to task and have no real oversight.
The American Government and Judicial System is morally corrupt. What we have in America today is more of a dictatorship than we realize and those in charge are more corrupt than those in jail!
6 posted on 03/01/2003 10:18:09 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: ellery
How about this: every law has an expiration date.
7 posted on 03/01/2003 10:23:57 AM PST by Stay the course (primates capitulards et toujours en quĂȘte de fromages)
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To: forest
James Madison recognized the dangers in exposing the system to an equal but separate type of power for everyone (direct election). He said, "No agrarian [socialist] attempts have yet been made in this country; but symptoms of a leveling spirit ... have sufficiently appeared in a certain quarter to give notice of the future danger. The direct election has created an equality of power situation, if not a wedding of two of the three powers to the detriment of the nation. Those powers are the Supreme Court and the Senate. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/843984/posts

8 posted on 03/01/2003 10:27:28 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: ellery
Better idea: Every time legislators enact a law, they must repeal THREE laws.
9 posted on 03/01/2003 10:48:29 AM PST by citizenK
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To: Stay the course
How about this: every law has an expiration date.

And this: every law must be read aloud, twice, on the floor of both houses of Congress, and both times there must be a confirmed quorum on the floor.

10 posted on 03/01/2003 10:52:08 AM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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I goofed and posted reply #3 on the the wrong url. It should have been here:

<http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/854625/posts>

Sorry 'bout that.

It's about Ron Paul's Liberty Amendment that limits the Fed Gov and trashes the UN and the IRS. It's about time.

But we need to Freep this one.

Forest

11 posted on 03/01/2003 11:00:07 AM PST by forest
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To: satyam
You have not been reading very extensively, nor paying attention to what you read, if you really believe that most of us who write comments at this web site are endorsing the "status quo."

I believe that most of us have only one thing in common, and that is a general sense that America must regain her traditional sense of direction and purpose--rediscover her spiritual and moral strength in her heritage. What there is very little agreement on, unfortunately, is what are the most significant aspects of that heritage; and how you rediscover them. I would agree that there are too many wishful thinkers, among us; too many, who want so badly to believe the best about the politicians of today, that they manage never to compare them very closely with the men who built America.

But the ferment of ideas--even those contributed by those who are determined to put a hopeful spin on all sorts of things, which are really not hopeful signs--does provide a very valuable resource to young Americans surfing the web to find something better than they have been fed in the class room. You may not agree with many of the posts, but you have to realize that there is a better level of debate here than in America, generally, today.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

13 posted on 03/01/2003 2:19:53 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: satyam
What I find so interesting about this Freerepublic Website is that nearly everysingle person who contibutes to this website - in any manner - is more or less a "cheerleader" for the Status Quo. Nearly all support the Iraq War. Nearly all are supporters of GW and his idiots. In essence most are ardent supporters of the modern Fascist/Socialist Government of the US. The "players" in the drama have changed from the Clinton Cabal to the present scam artists in the Oval Office. The present crew are even more pernicious because they actually believe their own tripe.

I hope the moderators won't remove your post because you need to be seen for what you are and everyone needs a chance to refute your ridiculous comments.

First, most of us are not cheerleaders for the "Status Quo" in any way. We want to see real reductions in the size, scope, cost, and reach of the federal government. We may not always agree with one another on where and when the cuts should be made, but we agree that there needs to be change. If we didn't want change, we'd be doing dozens of things other than arguing politics on the web.

I support the war against Iraq. Our nation has under attack by Muslim terrorists for about twenty years. "Jihad" means war in their languages, and their declarations of "jihad" are declarations of war. They have been prosecuting this war in the attack on Marines in Lebanon, in killing an old man on a ship, in bombing a plane over Scotland, in bombing embassies, in their first attempt on the WTC, in their attack on the USS Cole, and in many other actions. Iraq is clearly an ally of our enemies. If we are going to win the war, we must attack our enemies as hard as we can and keep attacking until they are all dead or surrender.

For the most part, I support our president because I believe that he is a good man. There are issues on which I strongly disagree with him, and I express that disagreement without hesitation. Ask Freepers like sinkspur and Miss Marple whether I've ever hesitated to criticize President Bush either before or after the election. Few people see me as a "Bush-bot" in any way. The people around him are intelligent people who have real accomplishments in their lives. You may not like them, but they are not idiots.

If you really believe that the United States is a Fascist/Socialist government, I hope that you someday have a chance to live under a true fascist/socialist government somewhere else so that you will understand the real difference.

I'm sorry that you find this website so terrible to visit. I'd be interested in hearing which websites you think are better.

WFTR
Bill

14 posted on 03/01/2003 3:34:01 PM PST by WFTR
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To: ellery
Idea: everytime the government passes a law, they have to repeal one.



I thought of this a long time ago but it would accomplish nothing, what we need is to return to the Constitution and simply void all law that conflicts with the Constitution but this seems an impossible dream. The truth seems to be that the average human is simply too lazy to live in freedom.
15 posted on 03/01/2003 5:28:33 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: gunnedah
"The American Government and Judicial System is morally corrupt. What we have in America today is more of a dictatorship than we realize and those in charge are more corrupt than those in jail!"

As one of my old and dear friends would have said,"You has done gone and said yosef a moufful den."
16 posted on 03/01/2003 5:32:02 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: satyam
"Even this Website cops the misnomer FREE REPUBLIC. As if we are still a Constitutional Republic!"

Would your rather it be called "Enslaved Democracy"? I have posted several comments to the effect that this was supposed to be a Republic but has been corrupted into a Democratic Socialist hellhole. I have also commented on the fact that only the inability to enforce all the stupid laws permits the illusion of freedom to obscure the truth of our descent into totalitarian hell. I have suffered greatly during my life for having the audacity to try to point out to others just what a mockery we have made of the intentions of the founders of this nation.
17 posted on 03/01/2003 5:40:58 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: satyam
Interesting screen name. You work for Satyam?
18 posted on 03/01/2003 5:48:40 PM PST by AM2000
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