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1 posted on 02/28/2003 2:59:02 PM PST by sourcery
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2 posted on 02/28/2003 2:59:59 PM PST by Thud
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3 posted on 02/28/2003 3:00:16 PM PST by sourcery (The Oracle on Mount Doom)
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If I'm reading this right, does this mean that classical physicists were right about the ether all along?
5 posted on 02/28/2003 3:07:36 PM PST by inquest
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Bump.
7 posted on 02/28/2003 3:20:50 PM PST by jimt
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This is a very impressive group. A collaboration of researchers from Cal Tech, MIT, Oak Ridge, Stanford, Princeton and others.


http://www.calphysics.org/aboutcipa.html

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The California Institute for Physics and Astrophysics (CIPA) is dedicated to exploring fundamental problems in physics (e.g. gravitation, inertia, the nature of mass) as well as very-long range technological possibilities that may emerge from the properties of the quantum vacuum.

8 posted on 02/28/2003 3:30:05 PM PST by edwin hubble
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The propellor or the jet engine of an aircraft push air backwards to propel the aircraft forward. A ship or boat propellor does the same thing with water. On Earth there is always air or water available to push against.

Was this absurd statement really written by someone with a physics background?

9 posted on 02/28/2003 3:31:57 PM PST by cinFLA
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bump for later read
11 posted on 02/28/2003 3:33:56 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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There's no point to it.
12 posted on 02/28/2003 3:35:31 PM PST by Consort
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If the zero-point energy is real, there is the possibility that it can be tapped as a source of power or be harnassed to generate a propulsive force for space travel.

Actually, even if it's real, it's everywhere and exactly the same everywhere. It's entropic energy. It's useless unless somebody repeals the Second Law of Thermo.

38 posted on 02/28/2003 4:29:38 PM PST by VadeRetro
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I think a scientist may have found a way to tap into something related to this to provide propulsion using a strange side-effect of Mach's principle. The physics are well understood and no new physical laws have to be rewritten to explain it.

James F. Woodward: Mach's Principle Weight Reduction = Propellantless Propulsion

40 posted on 02/28/2003 4:33:57 PM PST by Brett66
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To: sourcery
Planck frequency = 1043 Hz. Article had 1043.
42 posted on 02/28/2003 4:35:03 PM PST by spunkets
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TANSTAAFL
43 posted on 02/28/2003 4:35:59 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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There is a force associated with the electromagnetic quantum vacuum: the Casimir force.


54 posted on 02/28/2003 5:10:03 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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It's the same at all points...so it cannot be measured...
but it can be an energy source???

Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap
64 posted on 02/28/2003 6:05:55 PM PST by TheJollyRoger (George W. Bush for president in 2004....AGAIN!)
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Some insist it already HAS had a profound impact . . .


affording bases on the moon, Mars and some perhaps even Io or some such.

But then, who can know.

82 posted on 02/28/2003 8:12:37 PM PST by Quix
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This is a proven hoax. ZPE has been debunked years ago.

Use some common sense, man.
85 posted on 02/28/2003 9:43:31 PM PST by anymouse
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Will this zero point energy stuff run my SUV so I can get those damn hippys off my ass about it using too much gas?
92 posted on 02/28/2003 11:14:26 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Saw Zero Point Energy and thought this was a Clinton Presidency thread!~
93 posted on 02/28/2003 11:24:42 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Dr. Haisch at CalPhysics.org kindly responds to email.
137 posted on 03/01/2003 8:00:51 PM PST by aruanan
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This could have a profound impact on propulsion and space travel.

Yes, it is the breakthrough science that will unleash the earth and make us a member of the galactic travel club.

Without it, we are stuck here.

It would be nice is we could fiqure it out soon.

163 posted on 03/02/2003 11:28:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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