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VANITY - Help Needed - Need to find C++ classroom training ASAP!
None ^ | 02/21/2003 | freeasinbeer

Posted on 02/21/2003 4:35:29 PM PST by freeasinbeer

Hi everyone. Ok this may sound bizarre, but I need to find C++ training, and as fast as possible.

I am 'between' jobs right now, and have a great new job lined up, BUT I need to learn C++. Now, this is not a huge stretch, as I have been programming in Java, Visual Basic and various web scripting languages for years. I simply need an intensive C++ course that will cover syntax and how the language implements various programming structures.

Now, here is the thing... I am willing to pay a small finders fee to anyone who can find something:

Please help me get a job! As I said, I will pay a finders fee to anyone who can recommend or find a place that meets the above.

Thank you!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bayarea; c; california; employment; help; programming; sanfrancisco; training
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I have posted this in the Vanity section, and clearly marked it as such. I am a regular contributor here, and hope this is not innapropriate. I am not selling anything here, just hope that this great group of people can help one of their own secure employment. Remove this if it is a violation of the board (I hope it isn't!)

Thanks All!

1 posted on 02/21/2003 4:35:29 PM PST by freeasinbeer
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To: freeasinbeer
tisk tisk tisk....Did you lie on your resume? LOL
2 posted on 02/21/2003 4:37:57 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: freeasinbeer
Look for a tutor instead. Pay them hourly fee.
3 posted on 02/21/2003 4:38:31 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: HEY4QDEMS
learningtree.com
4 posted on 02/21/2003 4:38:53 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Mrs.Liberty
never mind...no SF Bay area.
5 posted on 02/21/2003 4:39:49 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: freeasinbeer
If you have Visual Basic skills then you should easily be able to pick up Visual C++ from a tutorial book as long as you have Visual Studio. Programming is programming, its just syntactical differences.

You will have 'for' loops, 'do' loops, 'while' loops, ifelse, etc. and all the basic building blocks of any programming language. A book should be able to lead you through those very easily at your skill level.

Where you might have a little trouble is with pointers. If you can't get the hang of them out of a book or tutorial then find a C++ programmer and give him $50 for a personal demo. You will save some cash.

Plus, I bet you could go to your local community college and a find a needy CS student who would give you a one on one for a 12 pack of beer.
6 posted on 02/21/2003 4:41:17 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: freeasinbeer
I wish you were looking for Cisco training. I am a CCIE with some background teaching (law, not IT) who wants to become a Cisco intructor, but the training market is not healthy now.

Check out Global Knowledge and Learning Tree. http://www.globalknowledge.com http://www.learningtree.com Tom Larus

7 posted on 02/21/2003 4:42:30 PM PST by Montfort
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Not really, I got the job offer thogh a friend, they are aware of my *ahem* deficiency, but need me to bring it up to speed asap.
8 posted on 02/21/2003 4:47:32 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conserative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: freeasinbeer
I don't know where you've been or how old you are...but, check out the U.S Navy or Air Force...sounds like you may have the skills their looking for.

Mustang sends w/ Best FReegards....and Good Luck!
9 posted on 02/21/2003 4:48:04 PM PST by Mustang
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Hummmmmmmm...I got my traing at the local community college for $44 bucks but that was for 18 weeks...Have you tried Heald, DeVrey, Berkeley Extension and ads at the back of Computer Currents or whatever the name is?

Also put intense, C++, training, San Francisco, into google and you get... link

Try playing with other words such as San Jose, and you'll have plenty of choices.

10 posted on 02/21/2003 4:48:20 PM PST by Drango (don't need no stinkin' tag line)
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To: freeasinbeer
If you need to program MS VC++ you are probably out of luck in terms of finding a quick hard core course.

You mention VB. If you have done advanced VB with API calls, ie message handling etc, you are at a good starting point.

For MS VC++ one absolutely has to understand how the GUI works under the hood. It is much more then the C++ syntax and OOP. MFC helps alot, but one has to use VC++ consistently over time to become proficient.

If it's simply a case of Unix/Linux C++ or simple I/O, it might not be so hard.

I suggest hitting the books hard and visiting various developer sites. IMO, you'll get more out of that then attending a class. The ramp up time is longer, but you understand more.

That's my two cents

11 posted on 02/21/2003 4:48:48 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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Hi everyone. Ok this may sound bizarre, but I need to find C++ training, and as fast as possible.

Won't help. You'll never be able to do the work cheaper than your average, garden-variety H-1B.

12 posted on 02/21/2003 4:51:16 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: Mustang
Believe me, I have considered it... who would I talk to about this, a recruiter I assume?
13 posted on 02/21/2003 4:55:20 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conserative by 40, you have no brain.)
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To: Arkinsaw
I've done both VB and VC++ and they are different monsters.

VB takes care of the GUI for you. In VC++ you take care of the GUI. VB hides so much from you you don't realize it.

I'm doing some COM work in VB right now and I'm using a book that give both the C++ and VB aspects of COM. The book describes COM from a C++ perspective while giving VB examples. Believe me, it is a big jump from VB to C++.

If you have done API calls before, like handling GetOpenFileName calls, windows messaging (keystroke interceptng, etc), COM, OOP, then you are in a good position to learn VC++ rather quickly.

14 posted on 02/21/2003 4:55:54 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: freeasinbeer
How did this show up on the "News/Activism" thread?

Administrator, please remove this thread....
15 posted on 02/21/2003 4:58:20 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy
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To: freeasinbeer
UCSC extension or UC Berkeley Extension, might be a good place to look into.
16 posted on 02/21/2003 4:59:40 PM PST by Cool Guy (In God We Trust.)
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To: freeasinbeer
I found an earlier edition of this title to be very helpful in my learning the core language.
17 posted on 02/21/2003 5:02:35 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: 1stFreedom
Depends on what you are doing really. The complexity you are referring to I would describe more as Windows programming. C++ is not that difficult, it uses the same programming constructs as any lanuage really. I write mostly server side stuff and don't have to deal with Windows too much.

I agree with you that the Windows side is much more complex.

I would say that he needs to get proficient with straight C/C++ first and then deal with the Windows stuff, if thats where he is heading. You're a lot better off learning them separately I think.
18 posted on 02/21/2003 5:03:30 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
You are correct. If it's simple command line programs which process text files and so forth then it's no problem.

If it's application development, it's much tougher.
19 posted on 02/21/2003 5:06:02 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Arkinsaw
I am heading towards the windows mfc stuff, so I think I will try to learn C++ first.

Thanks!
20 posted on 02/21/2003 5:07:23 PM PST by freeasinbeer (If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conserative by 40, you have no brain.)
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