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Democrat Targets .50 Caliber Revolver for Nationwide Ban
CNSNews.com ^ | February 17, 2003 | Democrat Targets .50 Caliber Revolver for Nationwide Ban By Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 02/18/2003 6:47:07 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants

A well-known gun maker recently introduced a powerful new hunting revolver that is said to have no equal in terms of firepower.

But within days of introducing the Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum at an industry-wide trade show in Florida, an anti-gun Democrat promised to seek a nationwide ban on the product.

"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose" for the 500 Magnum, said Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

Asked if he would seek a nationwide ban on the 500 Magnum, Davis replied, "Yes, indeed."

Billed as the "most powerful production revolver in the world today," S&W claims its new 500 Magnum cartridge produces nearly three times the muzzle energy of the .44 Magnum round, one of the most powerful sidearm cartridges available.

But Davis said the .50 caliber revolver, which weighs 72.5 ounces and has an overall length 15-inch has no purpose in society except to cause injury and death to humans, dismissing the manufacturer's claim that it is intended for hunting wild game.

He claimed handguns in general are specifically designed kill fellow human beings, whereas rifles and shotguns are typically relegated to hunting animals.

"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said. "Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol than an effective hunting tool, at least in his congressional district. He added that its high power combined with its concealability could make it the "weapon of choice" for urban gangs.

"If you live in a place like Chicago, and you know the amount of violence that is perpetrated by individuals who grow-up with the idea that having, handling and using a gun is a way-of-life in terms of establishing yourself on the streets or as part of the culture, then I'm afraid that many of these individuals will, in fact, acquire this weapon," Davis said.

"And, of course, the thing will be, 'I've got the most powerful piece on the block,'" he said.

Can a revolver be an assault weapon?

While Smith & Wesson's new five-round revolver is billed by the company as "the most powerful production revolver ever made," it's already being reclassified by some gun control advocates.

"If you've got something that masquerades as a handgun, but has the firepower of a major weapon, you're all at risk," said Illinois State House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie. "This is not the Wild West. It hasn't been for a long time."

Currie compared the 500 Magnum to "military-style assault weapons," although she had no information to base her claims on except for a "tip" received from a reporter.

"I'm not a weapons expert, but it sounded like pretty strong firepower to me," Currie said. "The description I heard was that from a significant range you could fell a large bear."

She dismissed the notion that the 500 Magnum is a hunting revolver, but did equate it with mob violence.

"My concern is whether this kind of weaponry -- it is a handgun as I understand it -- in a crowded, urban area downtown street corners in the midst of people who are angry about something and developing the kind of rage that means vandalism and mob action - whether this kind of weapon has any place," Currie said.

Like Davis, Currie said she would examine the prospects of making the sidearm illegal in the state.

"I'm going to look at the technology, as I say, and see if there is any way to specifically keep it from operating in the state of Illinois," Flynn said. "We are also working on efforts to ban military-style assault weapons, and, perhaps there is something about this technology that makes it possible to amend that legislation to include firepower like this."

Anti-gun message said to be flawed

Rifles are most commonly used for hunting, but many gun enthusiasts have also used smaller side arms for hunting, according to Gun Owners of America Executive Director Larry Pratt, who corrected the claim by Davis that hunters don't use revolvers to shoot prey.

"He's quite ignorant because there are people who do," Pratt said. "I do know for a fact that people take large caliber handguns with them to go hunting. And, I have no doubt that if you were lucky enough to get close enough, you could take a deer down with a .44 Magnum, which until now, was the biggest gun around."

As far as Davis' contention that any would-be criminal could easily conceal the 500 Magnum, Pratt said, "Yeah, if you have a trench coat or something like that."

Asked if the 500 Magnum's predecessor, the .44 Magnum faced the same criticisms and threats by politicians upon its introduction in 1955, Pratt said the controversy over Smith and Wesson's latest offering appears to be a sign of the times.

"It was all sort of good clean fun when it was introduced, but we're 20 years further along the gun-hating sensitivity training," Pratt said. "We're talking about the frame of mind that opposes concealed carry by private citizens."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Free Republic; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 50caliber; antigun; assaultweapon; banglist; guncontrol; gungrabbers; guns
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Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol

COMPLRTELY ignoring the fact that gang bangers simply don't carry 4 1/2 lb. $900 guns around. If having the most powerful gun was a status symbol amog gang bangers, then they would all be carrying .454 Casull's.

1 posted on 02/18/2003 6:47:07 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants; newgeezer
They should make a 20 mm magnum, then let the anti-gun nuts actually ban it so they can feel they are accomplishing something. Then they could leave us alone for a couple of years.
2 posted on 02/18/2003 6:50:20 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

At least he got that point correct. Now if he can only figure out what the Bill of Rights means. People have a right to defend themselves. Superior firepower is a good means to do that. Statistically speaking, I don't think that the .44 Automag (ie. Dirty Harry's weapon of choice) makes a blip on the criminal weapon's radar screen. Why would this be any different?

3 posted on 02/18/2003 6:50:33 AM PST by Hodar
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If memory serves me $2 box cutters were ultimately responsible for more than 3,000 deaths on September 11, 2001. Why don't we have a ban on them?
4 posted on 02/18/2003 6:51:24 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose" for the 500 Magnum, said Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

You THINK??? You want legislation based ON WHAT YOU THINK???

OH, look for TV newscasts suddenly obsessed AGAIN with gun violence and the need for control of all thos nasty, evil, law-abiding gun owners AGAIN.

Democrats have brain damage...must be all the coke and opuim-laced Lebonese hash.

5 posted on 02/18/2003 6:52:59 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: biblewonk
Anything larger than a .50 cal (using modern smokless powder) is currently classified as a "destructive weapon" and is already highly regulated.
6 posted on 02/18/2003 6:54:39 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
He added that its high power combined with its concealability could make it the "weapon of choice" for urban gangs.

CONCEALABILITY...of a miniature cannon? What is this guy smoking?

7 posted on 02/18/2003 6:55:06 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said.

Well the buck I shot with my .44 last last fall would disagree.

These people are hysterical.

8 posted on 02/18/2003 6:55:41 AM PST by MileHi
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To: cake_crumb
Democrats have brain damage ...and some of them appear to have a suicidal disregard for the country's founding documents.
9 posted on 02/18/2003 6:56:50 AM PST by Noumenon
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Great, I imagine they will go after these next...
10 posted on 02/18/2003 6:57:27 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.magnumresearch.com/

11 posted on 02/18/2003 6:57:52 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: Sangamon Kid
What is this guy smoking?

My guess would be that it is opium laced hashish from his buddy's, Saddam's private stock.

12 posted on 02/18/2003 6:58:03 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
bump ..... A 12 guage revolver would be kinda nice
13 posted on 02/18/2003 6:59:03 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Danny Davis - confirmed card carrying member of Democrat Socialists of America.
14 posted on 02/18/2003 6:59:06 AM PST by Commiewatcher
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To: Centurion2000
Yea! In 3 1/2" magnum, too!
15 posted on 02/18/2003 6:59:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: Centurion2000
Magnum Research makes the same revolver this idiot is trying to ban in .45 Long Colt/.410. Its not 12 gauge, but its a start.
16 posted on 02/18/2003 7:03:45 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: Blood of Tyrants


Specifications
Model: 500
Product Code: 163500
Caliber: 500 S&W Magnum®
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 8-3/8”
Frame Size: X-Frame
Action: Single Action/Double Action
Front Sights: Interchangeable Black Blade
Rear Sights: Micrometer Click Black Blade
Grips: Hogue Rubber-Energy Absorbing
Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Satin Stainless
Overall Length: 15”
Weight: 72.5 oz.
Other Features:
  • Most Powerful Production Revolver in the World Today
  • Massive 500 S&W Magnum® Cartridge 2600 ft/lb. Muzzle Energy
  • A Hunting Handgun For Any Game Animal Walking
  • Recoil Tamed with Effective Muzzle Compensator
  • Hoque Sorbathane® Recoil Absorbing Grip
  • Internal Lock
UPC: 022188635003

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Specifications
Product Code: 170231
Caliber: 500 S&W Magnum®
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Frame: X-Frame
Barrel Length: 10.5"
Front Sight: Orange Dovetail Ramp
Rear Sight: Adjustable White Outline
Grips: Hogue Dual Density Monogrip
Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Glassbead
Overall Length: 18"
Height: 6.5"
Weight Empty: 82.0 oz.
Other Features:
  • Recoil Compensator for Increased Muzzle Control
  • Tuned Performance Center Action
  • Integral Weaver Base for Easy Optics Mounting
  • Increased Velocity and Energy with 10.5" Barrel
  • Flash Chromed Hammer and Trigger for Smooth, Crisp Action
  • Internal Lock
  • Performance Center Gun Rug and Sling included
UPC Code: 022188702316



17 posted on 02/18/2003 7:06:34 AM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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To: Centurion2000
How about this:

This is a LE MAT two-barrel Revolver. This gun is a transitional model having all features of the first model, with the exception of the loading lever mounted on the left side. Girard & Co., Paris, France manufactured it. It was produced circa 1860. The inventor of this unusual weapon was Dr. Jean Alexander Francois Le Mat of New Orleans, Louisiana. He and P. G. T. Beauregard tried to manufacture this revolver in America. Their efforts were unsuccessful. Le Mat then went to Paris where Dr. Girard became a partner and manufactured the revolvers. They have a 9 shot cylinder of .42 caliber and a .63 caliber shotgun barrel.
-Civil War Preservations
18 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:11 AM PST by Garegaupa
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To: Commiewatcher
"Danny Davis - confirmed card carrying member of Democrat Socialists of America."
In other words, a certified dirtbag.
19 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:41 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: WSGilcrest
Obviously, this is an easily concealed firearm.
20 posted on 02/18/2003 7:08:55 AM PST by wjcsux
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