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Trust? Integriity? Respect?

I may be sick.

1 posted on 02/15/2003 7:47:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
You *are* sick. You posted it.

;^)

2 posted on 02/15/2003 7:48:41 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Liz
She has a short memory, Liz. She's already forgotten trust, integrity, honesty, etc. These people use these words loosely at best. M
7 posted on 02/15/2003 7:55:03 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Liz
She always did take herself a little too damn seriously, didn't she? She had been exactly nowhere at this point, and done exactly nothing- but she was quite willing to tell the whole world how to live. Still is, in fact.
9 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:13 AM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Liz
She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us and it is a great pleasure to present to this audience Miss Hillary Rodham.

This must have taken place in an alternate universe.

11 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:34 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Liz
"inarticulable "

Where the hell did she get that one? It's not in my dictionary.

12 posted on 02/15/2003 7:59:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Liz
.. I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world ..

Wow ... this "other woman" must have been some kind of prophet ... and maybe she had an aversion to black, crusty pant suits to boot!

13 posted on 02/15/2003 8:00:32 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a NEWSMAX.com article by Charles R. Smith: "SENATOR CLINTON A THREAT TO U.S. SECURITY" (012303) -- *Updated February 15, 2003

16 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:26 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Liz
There's no there there. This speech is incomprehensible from one sentence fragment to the next.
17 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:54 AM PST by bvw
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To: Liz
There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people.

Her whole life has been dedicated to being disrespectful by her own definition.

18 posted on 02/15/2003 8:04:56 AM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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To: Liz
Our love for this place, this particular place, Wellesley College, coupled with our freedom from the burden of an inauthentic reality allowed us to question basic assumptions underlying our education.

Huh?!! what the hell is this woman talking about?

21 posted on 02/15/2003 8:15:48 AM PST by Ciexyz
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If I had a time machine I'd go back in time and distribute comdoms to a whole bunch of folks. Her's would be the first, then sinkmaster,hitler,sadaam and all the rest of the evil pinheads I could think of.
27 posted on 02/15/2003 8:23:28 AM PST by WhirlwindAttack (We will know if she is the beast if she won't die from a fatal head wound. Check Revelations.)
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To: Liz
And Bill "didn't inhale?"

You'd HAVE to been high to put up with listening to this crap.
31 posted on 02/15/2003 8:27:37 AM PST by P.O.E. (Liberate Iraq!)
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"Part of the problem with empathy with professed goals is that empathy doesn't do us anything. We've had lots of empathy; we've had lots of sympathy, but we feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible. What does it mean to hear that 13.3% of the people in this country are below the poverty line? That's a percentage. We're not interested in social reconstruction; it's human reconstruction. How can we talk about percentages and trends?"

Geee...what happened to 'feeling our pain'?? Why were the 'poor' no better off under the Clinton administration? Oh he got some off Welfare...they became the 'nation of hamburger flippers' Bubba said X41 planned to create.

Hillary is a terrorist.

32 posted on 02/15/2003 8:29:23 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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TLC ran a special on the life of Hilleray ROdhaaaam. It was fairly unbiased, and gave a pretty good look at who she is and what makes her tick. I used to just dislike her in a sort of distant fashion, now she makes me nervous (in that twitchy, kill it now before it kills me sort of way). This woman is not a Democrat because she is in any way liberal or has any of those warm fuzzy liberal idealisms.
She wants and lusts for power and control. Hubby was just a stepping stone on her self appointed crusade to rule the world for the betterment of ..... Hillary.
35 posted on 02/15/2003 8:35:59 AM PST by cavtrooper21 (Why walk when you can ride?)
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Just a few years later, while a student at Yale Law School, Hillary went to work for a commie law firm. This was mentioned in Barbara Olson's book about Hillary. Here's an obituary from the NY Times (December 2, 2001) for the head of that firm:
Robert Treuhaft, a crusading radical lawyer who inspired his wife, Jessica Mitford, to write her best seller "The American Way of Death," died in New York on Nov. 11. He was 89.
[snip]
Robert Edward Treuhaft was born in New York on Aug. 8, 1912, the son of working-class immigrants from Hungary. His mother eventually came to run her own hat shop on Park Avenue; his father, a waiter turned bootlegger, became part owner of a Wall Street restaurant.

Raised in the Bronx and then Brooklyn, Mr. Treuhaft won a scholarship to Harvard, where he studied law.

After working for the International Ladies Garment Workers Union in New York, Mr. Treuhaft was rejected by the Army on medical grounds at the start of World War II and went to work for the Office of Price Administration in Washington; there he met and fell in love with Miss Mitford.

The couple could scarcely have been more different in upbringing. She was one of the blue-blooded Mitford sisters, a daughter of Lord Redesdale and sister to Nancy, the novelist; to Diana, who married Sir Oswald Mosley, the British fascist leader; to Unity, one of Hitler's cronies; and to Deborah, who became Duchess of Devonshire.

Miss Mitford was recovering from the loss of her first husband, Esmond Romilly, Winston Churchill's nephew, who had been killed on a Canadian Air Force raid over Germany and with whom she had eloped to fight with the International Brigade in the Spanish Civil War.

Mr. Treuhaft and Miss Mitford were married in 1943; Miss Mitford accepted his proposal before he had finished making it. They moved to San Francisco, where Mr. Treuhaft started a radical law firm that specialized in fighting every kind of discrimination and social injustice.

Both joined the United States Communist Party and were frequently investigated and harassed by government officials; for many years they were denied passports, for example. But by 1958 they had grown disillusioned with Communism and left the party.
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In 1971 he accepted a young Yale lawyer named Hillary Rodham (now Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton) as an intern.
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36 posted on 02/15/2003 8:36:11 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: Liz
"There's a very strange Conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left collegiate protests..."

Yes, indeed, it's called 'incipient Fascism', and it was good of you to notice.

Her "...harkening back to old virtues..." has a distinctly 'national socialist' quality to it; This is the germ of totalitarianism.

Hers is the face of American tyranny, should it come.
39 posted on 02/15/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Liz
One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid.

Something tells me there was more to it than that.

It's almost as though my mother used to say, "I'll always love you but there are times when I certainly won't like you."

I can understand why Mother Roddam felt that way. Hillary's mother problem also provides some insight as to why she is the way she is.

Flo King got Hillary right. HRC brought all the old sorority girl mentality to radicalism. Emmett Tyrrell was also insightful writing about "coat and tie" student radicals, though too self-congratulatory about his own school days.

Hillary's against organization and in favor of spontaneity, but every thing has to be organized by committees and meetings. She wanted to fight the establishment, yet rise in it and be praised and patted on the head by its leading lights. There's that schoolgirlish or schoolboyish desire "to create a newer world," to turn everything upside down and hope something better will result from it.

Words have a funny way of trapping our minds on the way to our tongues but there are necessary means even in this multi-media age for attempting to come to grasps with some of the inarticulate maybe even inarticulable things that we're feeling.

Indeed. Hillary's mind is a hodgepodge of contradictory ideas. At times she's incoherent. . That's natural for the extemporaneous remarks, but it also turns up in what must be the prepared part of the speech. "Collective group" stands out: a collective is a group and a group is a collective.

Through it all, there's schoolgirl romanticism and the unfulfillable longing for "authenticity" that was the bane of the 1960s and the 20th century in general. What is "authentic" is up for each individual to decide. And those individuals will change their minds on that subject many times. "Authenticity" is an excuse to overturn things, and after that's done, people and things won't be any more "real" or "authentic" than before.

We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living.

Wiser minds will tell you that these aspirations can't be satisfied by politics.

"Everybody's young days are a dream, a delightful insanity, a sweet solipsism. . . . we live happily on credit. There are no obligations to be observed; there are no accounts to be kept. Nothing is specified in advance; everything is what can be made of it. . . . We are impatient of restraint . . . we readily believe . . . that to have contracted a habit is to have failed. These, in my opinion, are among our virtues when we are young; but how remote they are from the disposition appropriate for participating in the style of government I have been describing." -- Michael Oakeshott

44 posted on 02/15/2003 10:03:17 AM PST by x
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She is also cheerful, good humored, good company, and a good friend to all of us.....


47 posted on 02/15/2003 10:44:06 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Liz
reference
48 posted on 02/15/2003 11:37:51 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: Liz
You are a glutton for punishment that is for sure, just like me!!
50 posted on 02/15/2003 3:05:59 PM PST by ewing
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