Three years later, Nader's more wrong than ever

Yale Daily News ^ | 2/12/03 | JAMES KIRCHICK

[jalisco555]

Another recovering leftist gropes his way to the truth about his movement.

[Maceman]

to me the most compelling argument for deposing Saddam Hussein is to liberate the Iraqi people.

A noble sentiment, but in and of itself not worth one single American life.

The most compelling argument is that we need to take the SOB out because it is in our own national interests to do so.

[cruiserman]

The man has made inestimable contributions to this country as a consumer advocate.

That's debatable.

[VeniVidiVici]

I gathered nomination signatures for Nader at my town's dump...

Why doesn't this surprise me?

[CyberCowboy777]

We make war that we may live in peace.
Aristotle

War kills men, and men deplore the loss; but war also crushes bad principles and tyrants, and so saves societies.
Colton

No man can sit down and withhold his hands from the warfare against wrong and get peace from his acquiescence.
Woodrow Wilson

If a sufficient number of people who wanted to stop war really did gather together, they would first of all begin by making war upon those who disagreed with them. And it is still more certain that they would make war on people who also want to stop wars but in another way.
Gurdjieff

[ClearCase_guy]

Howard Dean is a bright guy, so why is he still dodging on Iraq?

Uh, 'cause he hates America and wants to destroy our way of life so that a brilliant Socialist future can be more easily achieved? Am I close?

[TomB]

I gathered nomination signatures for Nader at my town's dump,

LOL you beat me to it.

I was going to say, "At least the kid knew where to go to find Nader supporters."

[rhombus]

A logical mind? In college? I predict this guy will be a Conservative by the time he's 30. Or maybe even sooner if he takes a look at his W2.

[weikel]

Nader is great he keeps rat votes off the rat total.

[jalisco555]

A logical mind? In college? I predict this guy will be a Conservative by the time he's 30. Or maybe even sooner if he takes a look at his W2.

It's been fascinating to see how many leftists have been forced to reconsider their politics due to the antics of their compatriots. It never seems to go the other way. The trend is our friend here.

[hgro]

Nader is an opportunist who managed to drop the value of my very fine Chevy Corvair to zero. Since those days, he has continued to line his pockets at a great cost to consumers of the country.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

James Kirchick is a freshman in Pierson College

Well, isn't that special?

[jalisco555]

Forbes did a very nice expose about 10 years ago detailing the links between Nader and the trial lawyers. "Saint Ralph" indeed.

[steve-b]

The man has made inestimable contributions to this country

The one real contribution he made was in tipping just enough votes away from Algore.

[weegee]

He gets some Rat votes but if you look at that "controversal" Florida ballot, there were several other socialist and communist party candidates.

The Rats believe that they must appeal to their left wing extremists to get the needed votes. I think that some of those socialists would rather not vote, or vote for one of the other "third" party candidates rather than vote for the Rats (which in their eyes would keep the status quo).

The Rats can't see that the farther left they go, the more they irritate some members of their base. Their partisan obstruction of what's in America's interest also puts off the base (when they learn of it). The Rats wanted to obstruct any plan to improve the economy because they knew that it polled well as a campaign issue for them; can't let the economy get better and ruin their chances. They knew that Clinton perjured himself but if he had been impeached AND removed from office, his critics would have won. Attacks on America have been going on for a decade now and yet this is our first genuine "response" at one source of the terrorism.

The left did not protest Clinton's wars this way (AntiWar.com did oppose his wars but I never saw any converage, did you?). This isn't a "peace movement", it is an antiBush (witness the "Bush was not elected" signs), anticapitalist (A.N.S.W.E.R., the bank vandalism at the SF "peace" protest, the antiglobalism signs, the socialists with Lenin signs), antiAmericanWar (witness the support for Palestinian war and even suicide bombers) movement.

[pabianice]

Liberals need to get over their knee-jerk aversion to this president as well as their instinctive reliance on useless authorities like the United Nations

I hope they don't. Election 2004: Repubs 51%, Dems 40%, Other 9%.

[yendu bwam]

Howard Dean is a bright guy, so why is he still dodging on Iraq?

Howard Dean is a liberal theocrat. His intelligence, like Bill Clintoon's, as an example, is rarely brought to bear on issues of right and wrong - just politics.

[expatpat]

Nader, like Helen Thomas, is basically an Arab. That's the real problem.

[ServesURight]

Yeah, thanks to Nader prices on all goods and services have skyrocketed thanks to busybody groups who feel they may cause harm to people without any scientific evidence whatsoever.

We can also thank Nader for preventing new products from reaching the market.

The man is a multimillionaire hypocrite who has stocks in the very same companies he trashes.

[Bonaparte]

A very articulate and clear thinker. I suspect he will someday be one of us.