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Reservists Backpedaling As War Looks More Likely
The Tampa Tribune | Feb 9. 2003 | Marilyn Rauber

Posted on 02/11/2003 2:05:09 PM PST by FloridaGeezer

Panic phone calls coming, lawyers say.

Washington-South Carolina freshman Gov. Mark Sanford-an Air Force reservist-sparked an outcry when he suggested his job would keep him from joining a war against Iraq.

Sanford, a Republican, was commissioned as a first lieutenant in the reserves in January 2002 and was elected governor in November. He said recently that he wouldn't deploy, then changed his course and said he would go if called.

But he's not the only military reservist with doubts about heading for the Persian Gulf.

Lawyers say they're being flooded with pamic calls from reservists who either don't believe the United States should attack Iraq or are worried about their safety, their jobs, their finances, their health or leaving their loved ones. The reservists are afraid to talk on record, their attorneys say.

"We have everybody from doctors to seaman apprentices wanting to get out," said David Sheldon, a former Navy lawyer now in private practice in Washington.

Virginia Beach lawyer Greg McCormack said a lot more reservists are calling him than in 1991 when the United States drove Iraq out of Kuwait,

This time around, with no overt aggression by Iraq, "a lot of people are questioning what are we doing, moms and dads saying, 'Why should my son go?,'" said McCormack, a former Army prosecutor.

No one disputes that most reservists are cooperating with the Pentagon call-up, the largest since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

"Most people in the military are there to do their job and do it well," said Pentagon Spokesperson Maj. Sandy Troeber.

No Pentagon statistics on AWOLs and deserters were available beyond 2001.

But the G.I. Rights Hotline, which was set up by antiwar activists to help those who have either fled or are thinking about it, say their calls have more than tripled in the past few months.

"Sometimes they say, 'I just got back, I can't go again,' or 'I was just in it for the college money,' or 'I'm willing to defend my country but I'm not willing to invade Iraq,'" said J.E. McNeil, a lawyer for the G.I. Rights Hotline.

Last week, Defense Sectretary Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged some of the nation's reserves have been "jerked around" since the rolling call-ups began after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Reservists have been doing everything from guarding local airports to cleaning up after the war in Afghanistan. Now, they'r heading for the gulf. Rumsfeld is considering easing the future burden on the reserves by delegating more support jobs to permanent troops.

About 95,000 reservists and National Guardsmen are on active duty. More than 260,000 were mobilized during the Persian Gulf War.

Jay Farrar, a military analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said that after Bush declared a long term war on terrorism 16 months ago, many of his reservist friends began resigning or retiring to avoid being called up again and again.

Some of the services, including the Marine Corps, have frozen retirements and are keeping overseas units in place to ensure troops can't retire even if they want to.

But, Farrar predicted, despite a reluctance to go to war, the number of AWOLs will be about as low as during the Persian Gulf War.

Most of the people , while it's painful to go, believe in their commitment and will honor their commitment," Farrar said.

Reservist or full-time servicemen who dodge their orders can receive a dishonorable discharge or even jail time. The military usually waits 30 days before considering them deserters.

The Pentagon says not even governors are exempt from deployment,

Air Force Reserves spokesman Lt. Col. Audrey Bahler said only members of Congress or those holding "key" federal jobs are automatically exempted. Other requests are handled "case by case."

Reserveists sign up for a six year stint and are paid only when they are on duty. They also can get college tuition and other G.I. Bill benefits. While on active duty, they receive the saame benefits as military enlisties, such as health care, They can be activated for as much as 12 months at a time.

They also get added help from Uncle Sam and private industry.

Employers are required to save a reservist's job, and some companies continue to provide benefits and salary supplements to absent workers. A 60-year old federal law also tries to alleviate mortgage and credit card worries by capping the interest rates that banks may charge active-duty reservists.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: deployment; reserved; reservists; warlist
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It's deja vue all over again.
1 posted on 02/11/2003 2:05:10 PM PST by FloridaGeezer
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To: FloridaGeezer
I'm for shooting anyone who "just joined for the college money" and "won't invade Iraq."

2 posted on 02/11/2003 2:06:46 PM PST by ChemistCat (We should have had newer, safer, better, more efficient ships by now, damn it.)
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To: FloridaGeezer
Every last one of these reprehensible cowards should be given a choice.

1) Do their duty.

2) Pay back every penny they have received in pay, benefits, comphensation and cost of training, then receive a Dishonorable Discharge.

3 posted on 02/11/2003 2:07:52 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: FloridaGeezer
These bastards, who over the years gladly cashed their drill pay checks and watched their retirement packages grow, are worse than draft dodgers and deserters who never claimed to be patriots....
4 posted on 02/11/2003 2:08:02 PM PST by tracer (/b>)
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To: FloridaGeezer
"Sometimes they say, 'I just got back, I can't go again,' or 'I was just in it for the college money,' or 'I'm willing to defend my country but I'm not willing to invade Iraq,'" said J.E. McNeil, a lawyer for the G.I. Rights Hotline.

Now I've heard everything . . .

5 posted on 02/11/2003 2:09:35 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: FloridaGeezer
But the G.I. Rights Hotline, which was set up by antiwar activists to help those who have either fled or are thinking about it, say their calls have more than tripled in the past few months.

"Sometimes they say, 'I just got back, I can't go again,' or 'I was just in it for the college money,' or 'I'm willing to defend my country but I'm not willing to invade Iraq,'" said J.E. McNeil, a lawyer for the G.I. Rights Hotline.

A credible source I'm sure. /sarcasm

Chins up boys, you'll be in Baghdad by March and home by April.

6 posted on 02/11/2003 2:09:59 PM PST by anymouse
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To: ChemistCat
I'm for shooting anyone who "just joined for the college money" and "won't invade Iraq."

Let them go to Canada for a real brave education.

7 posted on 02/11/2003 2:10:21 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: FloridaGeezer
The carefully concerted nationwide effort by local members of the press to destroy our will to fight continues. A few members of the Guard/Reserve and their families are playing the useful idiot, and we all suffer.
8 posted on 02/11/2003 2:10:43 PM PST by niteowl77
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To: FloridaGeezer
This time around, with no overt aggression by Iraq, "a lot of people are questioning what are we doing, moms and dads saying, 'Why should my son go?,'" said McCormack, a former Army prosecutor.

Your son should go because he signed up to do so.

If you son doesn't go he should be shot as a deserter.

Simple enough for these people?

9 posted on 02/11/2003 2:11:17 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ithaca is the City of Evil)
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To: FloridaGeezer
Bunch of panzy losers!
10 posted on 02/11/2003 2:13:03 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: FloridaGeezer
"Sometimes they say, 'I just got back, I can't go again,' or 'I was just in it for the college money,'

College is supposed to make you smarter. Obviously it failed on these folks.

11 posted on 02/11/2003 2:13:57 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: anymouse
Chins up boys, you'll be in Baghdad by March and home by April.

There ya' go. We can call it the Spring Break War.

12 posted on 02/11/2003 2:14:00 PM PST by ladtx
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To: FloridaGeezer
THey better hope their lawyers ae up to speed on the UCMJ because its going to be in play REAL soon.
13 posted on 02/11/2003 2:15:01 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My husband, a retired Navy Corpsman, would be proud to go! He would sign up for the Navy reserves in a second!

Oh wait..they won't take him..he is too old at age 41.
15 posted on 02/11/2003 2:15:53 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Ichneumon
I have my doubts that college makes many people smarter. Unfortunately.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 2:17:44 PM PST by TXBubba
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To: FloridaGeezer
Lawyers say they're being flooded with pamic calls from reservists who either don't believe the United States should attack Iraq or are worried about their safety, their jobs, their finances, their health or leaving their loved ones. The reservists are afraid to talk on record, their attorneys say.

"We have everybody from doctors to seaman apprentices wanting to get out," said David Sheldon, a former Navy lawyer now in private practice in Washington.

Kick these pathetic cowards out and fill their ranks with guys that want to get back in.

Of course they should also be fined the cost of their training in the military.

17 posted on 02/11/2003 2:18:31 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Centurion2000
Wait until this is all over, and then try 'em, convect 'em and lock 'em up!
18 posted on 02/11/2003 2:21:15 PM PST by A. Morgan
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To: FloridaGeezer
Sanford is my Governor. (Rep, SC)

If he's called and does'nt go, he can forget about my vote or the vote of any other republican in this state.

19 posted on 02/11/2003 2:22:02 PM PST by InspiredPath1
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To: CWOJackson
I don't disagree, although the case of the new governor is a bit different. Normally I'd say he should have moved to the inactive reserve for the period of his term, but I don't think that option is there for the first few years, and this guy's only been in bit over a year. But I guess that is what Lt. Governors are for. (Except in Texas, where the Lt. Gov. wields more real power than the governor)

20 posted on 02/11/2003 2:22:06 PM PST by El Gato
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