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But Actor Ron Silver Stands Up for American Values & Bush
MRC ^ | 11:35am EST, Tuesday February 11, 2003 | Brent Baker

Posted on 02/11/2003 9:33:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

Not all Hollywood celebrities are ungrateful, anti- American lefties. Prompted by a Wall Street Journal mention a couple of weeks ago about how actor Ron Silver denounced the head of the European parliament for his anti-American attitude, FNC's Beltway Boys brought Silver aboard their Saturday show.

Silver, who plays liberal campaign strategist "Bruno Gianelli" on NBC's The West Wing, made clear he does not agree with the politics of the show's "President Bartlet," Martin Sheen. Silver told Beltway Boys co-hosts Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke that Europeans "criticisms are logically incoherent...they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct." When Kondracke suggested it's a problem caused by George W. Bush since Europeans liked Bill Clinton, Silver refused to accept the premise.

MRC analyst Patrick Gregory noticed the interview segment on the February 8 program and checked the tape against the transcript.

Barnes segued into a discussion with Silver about anti- Americanism by recalling how last month in "Switzerland, for the International Economic Conference there, you had a run in with the head of the European parliament who accused or at least suggested that the U.S. has become an imperialist power in the world, and you responded rather aggressively to him. Tell us about that incident, and also about the level of anti-Americanism that you discovered there."

Silver recounted: "Yeah, that dinner was a culmination of events over the past several days where the subtext of almost every fora was anti-Americanism. It was very visceral, it was very intense, and to my way of thinking and some other people, it was very incoherent logically, and I'll get to that in a moment. But at that dinner, the EU had a dinner that night about the 'new Europe,' and they were being very self-congratulatory about their values, and implicitly they were suggesting that America was an imperial country, trying to impose their values on the rest of the world, which I don't think is a bad idea by the way, I kind of think our values are fairy universal and might be helpful. But we got, it was a question and answer period, and I think it was with Pat Cox, who was the President of the European parliament, and I asked him a question, and it got a little heated. What the Journal article left out is after that dinner, Pat and I went out and we had a jolly time drinking the night away."

Kondracke soon pressed Silver: "I take it thought that you judge from the entire experience that elite opinion in Europe is hostile to the United States. And I just wonder whether there is something that George Bush could have done coming on as President, because Bill Clinton didn't seem to have this problem."

Silver disagreed: "No, I don't think George Bush could have done anything. I think he's doing exactly the right thing, and I think it's genetic. It's written into the genetic code, the hostility toward America. I'm not an analyst, and perhaps a therapist would be better equipped to talk about it. But it's something going on that is so interesting, because their criticisms are logically incoherent, and they're very self- defeating, and I think it provides some sort of psychological comfort for them. But they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct. It goes on and on and on."

Silver added: "I kind of link Rumsfeld's 'old Europe versus the new Europe,' and we saw it in the last two weeks, with France and Germany, who were not with us on June 6, 1944, I don't know why we expect them to be with us today."

Barnes: "Well they aren't."

Silver: "But a lot of other European unions you know, signed that letter and have come on board."

Asked why Hollywood is so anti-war, Silver suggested: "My opinion is that the entertainment community along with other advocates -- human rights organizations, religious organizations, are always on the front lines to protest repression, but they're always usually the first ones to oppose any use of force to take care of these horrors that they catalogue repeatedly, and I find that inconsistent as well."

Kondracke: "So was there, what was the tension like on the set of The West Wing, you and Martin J. Sheen?"

Silver: "Well we've kind of avoided politics, I mean Marty has his politics, I have my politics. I do like the fact that he is committed, I disagree strongly and vehemently with his views about most things. But I like the involvement, I think it's a civic duty to be involved and I'm glad he raises his voice."

For a transcript of the interview, with a photo of Silver: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78141,00.html


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To: fight_truth_decay
", made clear he does not agree with the politics of the show's "President Bartlet," Martin Sheen"

He's awful brave...sheen is a bully.

41 posted on 02/11/2003 10:37:51 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: dfwgator
I'm not as convinced as you are.

One thing I keep thinking is, "This guy's an ACTOR!" His "craft" (as they call it) is to deliver spoken lines (written by someone else) and make people watching him believe that these words are his and are coming from the bottom of his heart. And he's good at it. So good in fact, he's paid a lot (sorry, alot) of money to do so.

Could it be that he's smart enough to look around and see what's happening to the careers of those hollywierd lefties like "K-looney" when they say the stupid things they are saying, and he feels someone that can still bring people to the box office will be needed to fill the void?

Ain't sayin' it's so, just sayin' it's possible. To me, he's done a COMPLETE 180 in a very short period.

Something's up. First Rosie likes the NRA and Bush, now this guy.

Odd.

42 posted on 02/11/2003 10:42:46 AM PST by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: pikachu
OMG I CRIED WHEN I READ THIS LMFAO!!!!!!!
43 posted on 02/11/2003 10:46:03 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice
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To: fight_truth_decay
NO WAY...NO WAY...Ron Silver was as LIBERAL as Liberal as they get. I don't believe this, this has to be the ONION.
44 posted on 02/11/2003 10:47:15 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
This was my take as well, that it can't be the same Ron Silver, liberal activist. Oh, well, maybe he just sees through the liberal BS and hypocrisy on this. James Woods is also a liberal, but he hates hypocrisy when he sees it, especially when he hears it from the left.
45 posted on 02/11/2003 10:53:06 AM PST by boop
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To: fight_truth_decay
I'd love to see Silver and James Woods take on some of the typical Hollywood bozos like Babs, Sheen, and Gere.
46 posted on 02/11/2003 10:56:48 AM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em Dubya!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Sheen is worthless, traitorous, scum-hard to get much lower than that.
47 posted on 02/11/2003 10:57:30 AM PST by ohioman
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To: JoeSixPack1
I think Sept 11. and the evils of the Clinton Admin turned many liberals into conservatives.
48 posted on 02/11/2003 10:58:05 AM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em Dubya!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I can remember Silver going great guns for the Clinton's healthcare plans and tax increases back in 1993, doing his best knee-jerk liberal spin on CNBC, for quite a stretch.Did he wise up, or was that just an act to remain viable in Hollywood? I can never quite tell if an actor spouts his politics out of cunning or conviction.

The other plausible explanation is that 9/11 clarified the world for many in Hollywood that no other event could.
49 posted on 02/11/2003 11:00:08 AM PST by habs4ever
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To: Marysecretary
lol Down Girl
50 posted on 02/11/2003 11:02:49 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT
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To: seanc623
Amen

That was a grand series
51 posted on 02/11/2003 11:04:05 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT
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To: ohioman
I also think the same for those who lead a life of not being informed with what is going on in their country and not active in some small part with being informed as the happenings in their government. Then to top it off these people have the audacity to go and vote.
52 posted on 02/11/2003 11:15:09 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice
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To: AbsoluteJustice
That is true. I know many people who have no idea what is going on in the world-useful idiots for our enemies.
53 posted on 02/11/2003 11:20:31 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Hildy
I'ts real, I saw the show myself.
54 posted on 02/11/2003 11:21:20 AM PST by SarahW
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To: ohioman
Man you are so correct!!! Sad isn't it?
55 posted on 02/11/2003 11:29:20 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Amen

That was a grand series

I really savor the irony of the movies running on Ted Turner's network. Tom is a great actor and more importantly a man of principle whom I've always admired.

56 posted on 02/11/2003 11:33:57 AM PST by seanc623
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To: dfwgator
Silver is welcome to his views in either direction. And I give more creedence to a change of heart than a pig headed viewpoint brought on by peer pressure.

The bottomline is that he does think. Proven by his ability to tolerate Sheen. Unlike, say, a Saradon's feeble attempt at political analysis.

The irksomeness of the fact that Silver is a private citizen, but socially recognized, with the ability to rub shoulders with heads of state is what makes him quotable. Let's just hope his conversion is transmittable.
57 posted on 02/11/2003 11:47:35 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (Who's on First?)
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To: skeeter
Isn't this the Ron Silver of "Those are OUR planes now" infamy?

Correct.

58 posted on 02/11/2003 12:03:16 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: fight_truth_decay
But it's something going on that is so interesting, because their criticisms are logically incoherent, and they're very self- defeating, and I think it provides some sort of psychological comfort for them. But they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct. It goes on and on and on."

What an excellent analysis. I wonder if he came up with this? Either way, he seems to be a smart guy. The rest of the left has nothing but the same old demonization material, suspicious motives, yadda yadda. They can't come up and debate with reason, so they have to go with their current methods, hate and fear mongering.

59 posted on 02/11/2003 12:17:31 PM PST by Paradox
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To: Bonaparte
"Isn't this the Ron Silver of "Those are OUR planes now" infamy?"

I have no dillusions about this guy being a reformed liberal, overall, however, I have encountered liberals who, for whatever reason, are "right" about specific issues. For example, I know quite a left wing gun nut. Democrat party worker, unabashed liberal, but he believes 100% in the RTKBA.. Then there is my liberal sister who homeschools her kids and is anti-public school. Even Christopher Hitchens would be a hated man here, if his view on this war and Clinton weren't so inline with the rest of us.

60 posted on 02/11/2003 12:23:03 PM PST by Paradox
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