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Canadian sniper cleared of desecrating al-Qaeda body
National Post ^ | February 8, 2003 | Stewart Bell

Posted on 02/08/2003 10:11:24 AM PST by Clive

A Canadian sniper up for the Bronze Star medal for his combat role in Afghanistan has been cleared of allegations he desecrated the body of a dead al-Qaeda fighter, the Defence Department said yesterday.

Military investigators lacked evidence for charges against Master Corporal Arron Perry and another Canadian, following allegations soldiers cut the finger off an enemy combatant and staged a "trophy" photo of the body.

The investigation also examined claims a soldier defecated on a second body. Master Cpl. Perry had been suspended pending the outcome of the probe, but was returned to duty yesterday in Edmonton.

"After a thorough investigation by the National Investigation Service, the evidence wasn't sufficient to support charges in that case," said Captain Mark Giles, a Department of National Defence public affairs officer.

Master Cpl. Perry, a member of Edmonton's 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, said he was relieved the investigation had concluded.

"I'm glad finally it's done," he said.

The sniper was part of a small group of Canadian soldiers who directly engaged the Taliban and al-Qaeda during a tour in Afghanistan. He has been credited with helping save soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division pinned down by enemy fire in Shah-i-Kot Valley.

The Canadians' sharp-shooting on al-Qaeda machine-gun nests and mortar positions were chronicled in Soldier of Fortune magazine. U.S. commanders have since recommended the snipers for Bronze Stars recognizing heroic or meritorious service.

But a few weeks after that triumph, Master Cpl. Perry was sent home under a cloud of suspicion. Allegations surfaced in mid-March that he had interfered with a body and there were reports of a photograph showing a dead enemy fighter with a cigarette in his mouth and a small sign on his chest reading "f--k terrorism."

But the investigation centred on claims a soldier had taken a finger from the body.

"The photos, while being perhaps inappropriate, that was not the main focus of the investigation. The main focus was the allegations of interfering with the dead body," Cpt. Giles said. "It's as much moral as it is legal. We always want dead bodies, whether they be enemy or friendly, to be treated with dignity."

Military investigators dug up the corpse and searched tents at the Canadian military base, seizing a knife. DNA tests were conducted to see if the knife could be tied to the body, but no link was established.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; burytheminpigskin; canada; deadterrorist; descreatedbodies; desecratedcorpse; desecratedthread; dusrupter; terrorism; terrorist; terrorists; trollintrollin
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To: Cvengr
It's by His grace that any person survives any battle

So,you are saying that Gawd is up there,maybe sitting on a BIG-ass hemroid pillow,and saying ,"Hey,I never did like THAT SOB,so I'm gonna zap him!"

Nonetheless, the war will be won by Him

Good,then let THAT SOB do the fighting!

341 posted on 02/11/2003 7:44:18 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
It's a clear breach of Article 124.

No,it's not. Article 124 addresses mutilating LIVE non-combatants,NOT dead bodies.

342 posted on 02/11/2003 7:51:02 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Cvengr
Yes, any NCO or officer who leads their unit into an ambush has failed in their duty.

I don't know what you have done,but it's blindly obvious you've never been in the infantry,or even have the first inkling about what infantry combat is like.

343 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:06 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for your kind comment. BTW I liked your page and 'essay' on 'ANTS! - Van
344 posted on 02/11/2003 8:29:35 AM PST by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: sneakypete
Hey now, I do not object to killing people shooting at our soldiers, I only wanted to temper the statment/feeling that desacration of bodies ect. is acceptable for our troops. The fact that we do not do that is a great motivator when it comes time for the enemy to surrender.
345 posted on 02/11/2003 8:37:10 AM PST by Unassuaged
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To: Cvengr
You said the sniper he shot he quary at over a mile away

Show me where I said that. Let me help you, it doesn't exist just like your erroneous accusations against MCpl Perry does not exist.

I am surprised that you have not raised the PPCLI grave digging detail where they had to dig up the terrs so they could be tested for DNA.

346 posted on 02/11/2003 9:21:45 AM PST by Aura Of The Blade
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To: Luis Gonzalez
>>Jihadis ARE civilians for the most part

So what. You may throw out an asinine statement such as we have a lot in common with them. And you know, so what, who cares......your statement is wrong, we have been provoked and revenge is sweet.

More power to the Canadians.

That's what i said. The jihadis should be happy that it's not civilians from the countries they are targeting who are handing out justice.

Imagine, just imagine, a contingent of Freepers let loose for a couple of hours on GITMO.....
347 posted on 02/11/2003 9:53:55 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
The only people who have a lot in common with the jihadists, are the ones taking the position that our troops should behave like extremist Islamic terrorists, and not like American military personnel.


348 posted on 02/11/2003 10:40:19 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: swarthyguy
The only people who have a lot in common with the jihadists, are the ones taking the position that our troops should behave like extremist Islamic terrorists, and not like American military personnel.
349 posted on 02/11/2003 10:45:07 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
No one has behaved like the islamis.

This guy was acquitted.

It's all smoke and mirrors, a strawman that feeds the islami propaganda machine.

Next you tell me we're mistreating the Gitmo scum. Right, 3 squares, AC, medical care. A real torture chamber we've built at Gitmo.


350 posted on 02/11/2003 10:46:54 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"The only people who have a lot in common with the jihadists, are the ones taking the position that our troops should behave like extremist Islamic terrorists, and not like American military personnel."

I'll say it...

Some of the folks who favor desecrating the bodies of enemy dead have...how to say this delicately...performance issues.
351 posted on 02/11/2003 10:48:20 AM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: All
Looks like this thread has touched on many, many areas. Here are a couple of suggestions, based on personal experience:

1)Normally the dead cannot hurt you-unless someone has booby-trapped their corpse with a frag or some type of explosive device. This sniper was tagging the enemy from long-range. Someone could have booby-trapped the body. Precautions were in order.

2)The dead can't hurt you-assuming they are not contaminated with some sort of agent.

The dead can't hurt you unless they have/had some sort of communicable disease. This soldier was alleged to have come in contact with a severed digit. He was non-medical personnel, therefore, would not have exercised proper techniques to avoid contamination, if such existed. Hepatitis comes to mind.

The dead can't hurt you-unless their fellow soldiers are watching you...

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Coming in contact with the bodies of enemy dead is an unpleasant experience. Even EPWs can hurt you-and not in an assaultive manner. Ask any vets that were forced to endure the painful Gamma Globulin shots of the VN era. Then ask them if they knew/know that the GG shots contained extracts of plasma taken from as many as 2K donors. Few did/do. Of course we are told "...no evidence exists of transference of disease via GG shots." Yet very high rates of Hepatitis occur among VN vets. Many from blood transfusions. Others? I ain't so sure...Point is, why risk it? Do you're job and move on...

352 posted on 02/11/2003 10:50:58 AM PST by donozark
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To: swarthyguy; Luis Gonzalez
No one has behaved like the islamis.

There are plenty of knuckleheads out there on this thread saying, "And so what if our troops behave like the islamis?"

As a former Marine...I expect our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines to comport themselves as members of the United States Armed Forces, not as medieval barbarians worshipping a burnt rock they think is a pagan moon god.

353 posted on 02/11/2003 10:51:07 AM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: albertabound
..Mcpl Perry, hooorah buddy good job proud of you...

Thanks so much, for that.

And, Alberta? Here's that pic you wanted, for your bedside table:


354 posted on 02/11/2003 1:45:10 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete
..THAT is how you intimidate the enemy and win wars,not by playing PC kissy-face with them...

Is that how you lost your war, Pete?

355 posted on 02/11/2003 1:46:31 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete; Admin Moderator
**STALKER ALERT**

356 posted on 02/11/2003 1:47:42 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: sneakypete
..you ain't been paying attention,have you? They teach holy war in their mosques,and pray for your destruction several times a day. This is what is uniting them....

That's complete nonsense. 99.9% of Muslims get up in the morning and wonder what's for breakfast just like you and I do.

357 posted on 02/11/2003 1:49:01 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete
..Byron,it is clear you have no understanding of guerilla warfare,or how to counter it....

We're not discussing 'guerilla warfare', Pete. I know you feel comfortable on that turf, but that's not what we're discussing. We're discussing the desecration of corpses: an action which is morally wrong, a breach of military code, and brings disgrace on the armed forces.

358 posted on 02/11/2003 1:52:34 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Luis Gonzalez
...I wonder if the people on this thread who advocate desecrating the honor of the US military by behaving like the animals they say the enemy is, would also believe that the best way to punish a man who rapes children is to rape his children?...

I hope not Luis, but then I'm an idealist. I know for sure that one of the protagonists on this thread is a military phony so hopefully a lot of it is just infantile online macho. Thanks for standing up for the honor of the US armed forces, amigo.

359 posted on 02/11/2003 1:56:47 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete
..It says you can't mutilate their corpses..
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Where?...

In the Code, printed above. It makes no distinction at all to as to the status of 'persons.'

360 posted on 02/11/2003 1:58:43 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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