Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

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CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.

The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.

Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."

"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.

The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.

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[Porterville]

Fire of STDs maybe; I hope not brimstone.

[chuckles]

I would have dropped the recorder and given a demonstration to the speaker. I would have ramed my fist up his arse and not quit till I had crushed his heart and pulled it out the same way I went in. Then I would turn to the children and say "Don't try this at home, I'm a profesional."

[stands2reason]

Some freepers often call the poster, known as FF578, a nut case for declaring homsexuals to be evil.

Not quite. Some freepers often call the poster, known as FF578, a nut case for declaring homosexuals evil and worthy of state-sanctified execution.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

As Dennis Miller said tonight, "Why have a backbone if we don't stand up straight?"

God bless Camenker and Whiteman. More parents need to stare down these idiots.

[EdReform]

Does the conference take place at a state-funded institution? Does GLSEN (a PRIVATE organization) pay a fee for use of the facilities? Or does the state give them a free ride? If they don't pay any fees for using the facilities, then indeed, taxpayer monies are being used to support the GLSEN conferences.

On other threads, madg has complained about how the BSA, as a private organization, is not intitled to free use of public facilities, so neither is GLSEN. I'd like to know if GLSEN has used public facilities at no charge for their conferences or meetings at any time during the past 12 years.

[EdReform]

"All of the workshops that I attended at the 2002 GLSEN conference did no kind of “check-in” whatsoever. None of the presenters knew my name or, presumably, anyone else’s name."

If there was no "check-in," then there was no pre-registration for any of the individual workshops. So any 12, 13, or 14 year old could walk in to a workshop where explicit homosexual sex acts are being discussed.

Some parents, believeing this was a "safe-schools" conference, may have given permission for their children to attend the conference in general. It's unlikely they knew that this sexually explicit workshop would be included. Of course, since no registration or parental permission was required for individual workshops, a kid could always tell his parents, "oh no, I didn't attend THAT workshop!"

[EdReform]

But you don't know that for a fact, correct?

[EdReform]

Well, since the state funds GLSEN's GSA's, perhaps the state also grants them other special favors at taxpayer expense, such as free use of state-owned facilities for conferences and meetings.

[EdReform]

Yes, I realize that public schools and institutions can and do rent space to private groups, and may have done so in this case. However, since the state has a history of supporting GLSEN programs with taxpayer money, I'd like to know if the state has ever waived the rental fee for GLSEN's conferences and meetings as a means of support.

Thanks for the link...

[MEGoody]

"I see that activist Brian Camenker has been "anti sex ed" and antigay for years."

Good for him.

Anyone who teaches 'fisting' to 14 year olds should be strung up by their nether parts.

[MEGoody]

"But how to insert one’s hand into another’s orifice… yeah, that’s a scientific matter… specifically “medical.”

The only proper medical instruction for that is 'don't do it.

[MEGoody]

Nice little story line there. Care to share what was actually said, or do you prefer your fairytale?

[EdReform]

"GSAs are not “GLSEN’s,” they are student-organized and student-run."

Uh huh. That's what they said about the "Day of Silence" project. What started as a college "student-led" event is now being taken over by GLSEN and being put on in middle and high schools around the country:

GLSEN Begins Countdown to 2003 Day of Silence

"For the second straight year GLSEN is leading the coordination of the Day of Silence Project, which was started in 1996 by students at the University of Virginia and in 2002 snowballed into a landmark national event. During the Day, participating students and teachers take a vow of silence to protest discrimination leveled at LGBT people in our schools."

If it's an event for students, run by students, why is GLSEN is leading the coordination? The students managed to coordinate the event up until the last two years. But now GLSEN is leading the coordination. And you expect us to believe that GLSEN isn't "leading the coordination" of GSA's? "Student-led" -- right. Funded by taxpayer money.

Throw in a wad of GLSEN money and "coordination", and watch GLSEN programs "snowball" in public schools throughout the nation. With support from the state, of course...

(scripter - FYI)