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Rumsfeld Puts Germany On the Same Level as Libya und Cuba
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| February 6, 2003
| Reuters
Posted on 02/06/2003 3:37:44 AM PST by longjack
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If your blood pressure can take it, here's a summary of a puff piece Reuters did on "President" Joschka Fischer yesterday. I wonder if the two stories are connected somehow.
I read a Reuters article describing Fischer's temporary position as president of the Security Council for February and his reaction to Powell's speech.
Among other things he said: Confirm Powell's data with Iraqi data, that is, verify Powells's data on the ground in Iraq; Push for increased, longer inspections and more inspectors, U2 flights, and a 2nd Iraq resolution.
He wants to delay any until resolution past the favorable attack dates in the middle of February through March.
And.., if there was a war, Germany is the perfect candidate for a role in the peace process, since it chose not to go to war. He (Fischer) is well known in the region since he has lobbied for Middle East peace since his first days as Foreign Minister and has won much respect in the region.
For German Readers.. Yahoo-Germany / Reuters Vorsicht!! Kotz Gefahr
Vorsicht!! Kotz Gefahr = Caution!! Barf Alert
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posted on
02/06/2003 3:37:44 AM PST
by
longjack
To: longjack
We had better make sure that German and French companies are frozen out of the rebuilding contracts - the work should go ONLY to countries that stand with us.
God Bless America, and her allies, and LET'S ROLL !!!
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posted on
02/06/2003 3:40:45 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
To: longjack
After Saddam Hussein is gone, I would like to see our military government encourage Iraq to honor its long-term oil contracts with France and using the proceeds from those sales to finance the rebuilding of Iraq. (to hell with using our money!)
And in addition to the fun of watching the frogs pay for the rebuilding of Iraq we can have the joy of reminding France that they are only one turn of the valve away from "lights out" (and make sure they know that it's our hand on that valve).
Should Germany and France reap any financial rewards from the rebuilding of Iraq? Hell No! In a pig's eye!
--Boot Hill
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:04:45 AM PST
by
Boot Hill
To: longjack
Nothing bothers these guys. A couple of days ago, Richard Perle said that we should no longer consider France an ally of the US. Pretty strong stuff, no? But the French merely yawned.
I think this is because both France and Germany know that we have a long-standing tradition of forgiving our enemies and letting by-gones be by-gones, and they're counting on us to do it again (after Iraq has ceased to be a problem, thanks to us). I hope they're wrong.
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:10:45 AM PST
by
livius
To: longjack
IMHO an insult to Libya and Cuba.
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:39:21 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
Doesn't the experience of the past bloody century make any of these "leaders" think twice about open insults that may
encourage German militarism?
Didn't that particular syndrome have a few hundred thousand negative consequences over here, not boosting anything except the gravestone monument industry?
Rumsfeld is being incredibly reckless. That's long been obvious, though.
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:45:50 AM PST
by
Greybird
(Resistance to even petty tyrants is obedience to God)
To: Greybird
Rumsfeld is being incredibly recklessAnd you're being incredibly stupid. Do you honestly believe that we should worry about insulting the Germans? Do you honestly believe that its other nations' attitudes to Germany that's responsible for their recurrent bellicosity and obnoxious behavior?
Let's have more opinions from the paleocon kook lobby -- I need a few more good laughs.
To: Greybird
Of course, it is our fault for being critical...it is obviously not Germany's fault for being aholes. The "don't say something to make them mad" mentality is cowardly at best.
To: Greybird
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Please. A German rendevous with its militarist past will come from the Germans themselves, not from anything we do.
Besides, their pacifism is a result of a healthy realization of what we did to them.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:52:48 AM PST
by
section9
(The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
To: longjack
Very suttle of Rumy to mention Germany in the same sentence as Libya and Cuba
Guy is great with words
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posted on
02/06/2003 5:34:32 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: Greybird
Rumsfeld is being incredibly reckless. That's long been obvious, though. So, you are saying that if germany becomes militaristic, it's Rumsfield's fault?
This doesn't appear all that obvious to me.
To: Cincinatus
And you're being incredibly stupid. Do you honestly believe that we should worry about insulting the Germans? Do you honestly believe that its other nations' attitudes to Germany that's responsible for their recurrent bellicosity and obnoxious behavior? If we want allies in the war on terrorism, then yes, Rumsfeld's remark is reckless. Roosevelt said "Speak softly & carry a big stick", Rumsfeld is hurling insults like a bar room brawler. I thought we were the party of grown-ups.
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posted on
02/06/2003 6:56:50 AM PST
by
lucysmom
To: lucysmom
"I think Libya, Cuba and Germany are those that have indicated, they wouldn't help in any way."
Since when is stating facts considered "hurling insults like a bar room brawler?"
To: Greybird
Doesn't the experience of the past bloody century make any of these "leaders" think twice about open insults that may encourage German militarism? Our military presence IN Germany is larger than their military.
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posted on
02/06/2003 7:07:42 AM PST
by
cinFLA
To: longjack
Rumsfeld Puts Germany On the Same Level as Libya und Cuba Rumsfeld's actions didn't "put" anyone anywhere.
"Then there are still 3 or 4 countries that have told us they would do nothing at all", said Rumsfeld. "I think Libya, Cuba and Germany are those that have indicated, they wouldn't help in any way."
But whose actions did put them in that group?
To: Greybird; Poohbah
We took the Germans twice in the last century when they were bigger and less PC.
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posted on
02/06/2003 7:20:24 AM PST
by
hchutch
("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
To: MamaLucci
"I think Libya, Cuba and Germany are those that have indicated, they wouldn't help in any way." Since when is stating facts considered "hurling insults like a bar room brawler?"
You're joking, right?
Linking Germany with Cuba and Libya is an obvious insult, just like telling a man his wife is ugly even if its the truth. It may be emotionally satisfying for the immature it shoot off his mouth, but adults know that there are negative consequences to that kind of behavior.
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posted on
02/06/2003 7:21:32 AM PST
by
lucysmom
To: Cincinatus
Hrehem. Don´t you think that insulting others is wrong, my friend?
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posted on
02/06/2003 7:23:33 AM PST
by
Michael81Dus
(You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
To: uncbob
Guy is damaging relations more and more. The situation actually did go worse when Schröder made his anti-war campaign, but now both sides (!!) are making more faults. We need diplomats now.
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posted on
02/06/2003 7:25:01 AM PST
by
Michael81Dus
(You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
To: wayoverontheright
Then there are still 3 or 4 countries that have told us they would do nothing at all", said Rumsfeld. "I think Libya, Cuba and Germany are those that have indicated, they wouldn't help in any way." But whose actions did put them in that group?
Exactly. Rumsfeld didn't put Germany on the same level as Libya and Cuba.
Germany did.
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