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Debris found in Louisiana bearing the Israel Air Force symbol, thought to be from the Columbia.
Haaretz ^ | AP

Posted on 02/04/2003 3:44:19 PM PST by yonif



TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbia; iaf; idf; ilanramon
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1 posted on 02/04/2003 3:44:19 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
Sad. Nothing else to say.
2 posted on 02/04/2003 3:48:28 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: yonif
What is it?
3 posted on 02/04/2003 3:49:36 PM PST by strela (If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you oughta go back home and crawl under your bed.)
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To: strela
Looks like part of a uniform.
4 posted on 02/04/2003 3:51:09 PM PST by Apple_Hills
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To: yonif
Man, this stinks. They'll be finding debris for the next several years, I'm afraid.
5 posted on 02/04/2003 3:51:43 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: strela
It could be part of a flag or the like. Ilan Ramon had on board some flags of importance to both the Israeli Military, Airforce and government.
6 posted on 02/04/2003 3:52:52 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
Debris Sightings Update

"....LOUISIANA:
-Fabric bearing a blue Star of David on a silver background, apparently a uniform patch, found by woman walking in Sabine Parish near Toledo Bend Reservoir.
-Papers, including one that had the name of astronaut William McCool on it and one that had mission number STS107 on it, in a front yard in Vernon Parish.
-What appeared to be a small ring binder in rural Vernon Parish.
etc. etc. -2 ½-foot-by-5-foot chunk of metal in rural Sabine Parish. -Heavy greenish object that appeared to have been circular, about the size of a silver dollar, hit a roof in Pineville and fell into the yard. -Foot-long piece of metal that slammed into a yard in Vernon Parish, partly burying itself and sending up a shower of dirt.
etc etc

7 posted on 02/04/2003 3:55:39 PM PST by Shermy
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To: yonif
More tears and more prayers.
8 posted on 02/04/2003 3:55:46 PM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: Apple_Hills
Not quite the same as the patch on his uniform...but close


9 posted on 02/04/2003 3:58:37 PM PST by twyn1 (God Bless America !)
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To: yonif
It's a sad day for all of us Yonif. Sorry this had to be the flight to take up Ramon.
10 posted on 02/04/2003 3:59:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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11 posted on 02/04/2003 4:01:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: twyn1
I appologize for posting the same photo over. Mine has a larger one linked to it, and thought some might like to have it.
12 posted on 02/04/2003 4:02:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: yonif
It's like a relic. Very moving.

For local stories like this, lurk at NE Louisiana sites, like the Shreveport Times

Debris includes Star of David patch, paper with shuttle pilot's name

LEESVILLE, La. (AP) -- What appeared to be a uniform patch emblazoned with a Star of David, a notebook page of technical jargon and a scrap of paper with the name of pilot William McCool are among debris collected in Louisiana during the painstaking search for what's left of space shuttle Columbia.

Vernon Parish Sheriff Sam Craft said the papers -- some wrinkled, slightly scorched but otherwise intact, others in scraps -- were found by a woman who thought they were run-of-the-mill litter.

"The woman just looked out in her yard and saw paper on her yard. When she went out to pick it up she found it," Craft said. The papers included a scrap with shuttle pilot McCool's name and another scrap with mission number STS107. He did not identify the woman.

About a mile away, another woman found a sheet of paper that appeared to be from a small ring binder. Kim Magee, 36, of rural Vernon Parish, said her mother found the paper while walking in her yard.

Family members contacted NASA and a man there said they wanted to see it, Magee said.

"We just thought it had to be. It had all kinds of technical jargon, acronyms, charts and arrows," Magee said. "We thought it must have had something to do with takeoff after the tanks separated because it said things like `at T-minus something this will happen, at T-minus something that will happen."

These were among numerous pieces of debris at the Vernon Sheriff's Office, stored in see-through evidence bags, awaiting transport by state police to collection centers where it could be authenticated and stored.

Columbia was streaking through the atmosphere on its way to a Saturday morning landing when it broke up over Texas. Seven astronauts aboard included McCool and five other Americans, along with Israel's first astronaut Ilan Ramon.

Fabric bearing a blue Star of David on a silver background was found by a woman walking in Sabine Parish near Toledo Bend Reservoir where parts of the shuttle are believed to have fallen, Craft said. The woman was on her way to Vernon Parish and dropped it off at the Sheriff's Office, he said.

Other debris collected in Vernon Parish includes three large pieces of metal, masses of hair-like strands that appear to be some type of insulation, and pieces of material that Craft said was similar to Kevlar, a synthetic material used to make bulletproof body armor.

The best site for indxed shuttle stories, IMO, is WKMG-TV Orlando

13 posted on 02/04/2003 4:05:36 PM PST by Shermy
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To: DoughtyOne
That's okay--your's is better defined
14 posted on 02/04/2003 4:08:27 PM PST by twyn1 (God Bless America !)
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To: twyn1
Thanks. You're welcome to post my small or large one any time you like. Take care.
15 posted on 02/04/2003 4:21:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: yonif
Did that Jewish paper ever correct the picture they printed as being the left wing of the Shuttle? If not they are really doing a disservice to the honor of their astronaut, imo.
16 posted on 02/04/2003 4:23:15 PM PST by deport
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not sure if you all heard this but the Japanese have cancelled having their astronaut on board the next shuttle mission.
17 posted on 02/04/2003 4:26:59 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (I don't believe in hyphenating Americans)
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To: twyn1
Not quite the same as the patch on his uniform...but close

The emblem on the debris is indeed the same as the one on IAF aircraft, e.g.:

I assume Ramon had some memorabilia along for the ride.

18 posted on 02/04/2003 4:28:25 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: deport
I went to the Israel site, and the photo is not on their front page any longer, and you have to subscribe to see anything else.

For the record, a reporter asked NASA about this photo yesterday at the press conference, and NASA claimed not to have seen it.

19 posted on 02/04/2003 4:30:07 PM PST by snopercod
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To: yonif
I smell fake. You don't really believe that patch was torn off the Israeli astronaut's uniform withoug a single thread being scortched, do you?
20 posted on 02/04/2003 4:35:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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