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Professor Refuses Letters of Recommendation to Creationist Students
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Posted on 01/30/2003 7:15:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-evolution-dispute0130jan30,0,713004.story

Professor's Letter Refusal Causes Probe By LISA FALKENBERG Associated Press Writer

January 30, 2003, 9:50 AM EST

DALLAS -- A biology professor who refuses to write letters of recommendation for his students if they don't believe in evolution is being accused of religious discrimination, and federal officials are investigating, the school said.

The legal complaint was filed against Texas Tech University and professor Michael Dini by a student and the Liberty Legal Institute, a religious freedom group that calls Dini's policy "open religious bigotry."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: creationzealots; crevolist; flatearthsociety; highereducation; michaeldobbs; zzzzzzzzzz
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To: tallhappy
The professor probably "learned" of the students' views on evolution in the course of classroom discussions, during which the students may have been overzealous in unobjectively condemning the professor's views.

I would be quite surprised if the students had not taken several other course in the biological sciences, chemistry, physics, psychology, etc. and could more easily obtain references from the professors who taught those classes.

That said, undergraduate recommendations from a professor whose only contact with a given student was classroom discussions (if any) and grading their papers and exams (if he/she indeed did so, rather than a teaching assistant) are laughable at best. Indeed, what student in his/her right mind would seek a recommendation other than a professor who would be certain to provide a glowing recommendation?

Sadly, the answer to that question appears to be: only the subject pre-med weenies who appear to be providing early evidence that they lack good judgment, social/emotional "intelligence," and the street smarts to resist the temptation of being a litigious pains-in-the-ass for a medical faculty unfortunate enough to have the dubious honor of providing their medical education and training......

101 posted on 01/30/2003 9:21:55 AM PST by tracer
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To: BearCub
No he's not. How on Earth can you possibly expect to force someone to recommend someone? It is a private matter & he can refuse for any - or no - reason whatsoever.

The professor is wrong on ethical and pedagogical grounds even if he is within his legal rights. Students pay rather handsomely for the privilege of sitting in class. Professors are well paid for the privilege of teaching. Teachers have certain customary duties toward students, of which writing recommendations (at least for the superior students) is one.

In this day and age, any professor who explicitly refused to write a recommendation for a student because he didn't like the color of his skin would be kicked out the door pronto. I don't imagine the courts would protect him. Ditto for gender discrimination. Other forms of discrimination can probably be gotten away with, but they are contemptible nonetheless.

I've not darkened the door of a college classroom for many a year, but I gather there are plenty of radical professors who give conservative students the shaft because they don't like their politics. That's wrong, as it would be for a conservative professor to sabotage a capable but leftish student. My own experience was quite different. I was conservative. Most of my instructors were quite liberal. We got along very well. I was stimulated by the challenge of opposing views, and I'd like to think the profs appreciated it too. This is how it is supposed to work, and I hope this is still the norm, the horror stories notwithstanding.

102 posted on 01/30/2003 9:25:56 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Dataman
Handing in a project on creationism in a biology class is akin to handing in an essay on alchemy in chemistry or handing in a playboy centerfold stapled to an empty pizza box as you English PhD thesis.

Your ability to regurgitate creationist excrement does not reflect in any way on your performance in a biology course.

103 posted on 01/30/2003 9:28:25 AM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: sphinx
In this day and age, any professor who explicitly refused to write a recommendation for a student because he didn't like the color of his skin would be kicked out the door pronto. I don't imagine the courts would protect him. Ditto for gender discrimination. Other forms of discrimination can probably be gotten away with, but they are contemptible nonetheless.

You are so right. And while we're exposing fallacies, let's call the professor's actions exactly what they are: blackballing.

104 posted on 01/30/2003 9:28:49 AM PST by Dataman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I have been in situations where a student or former student wants to compel me to write letters of recommendation with which I do not agree.

This is a bad idea, even if this professor is being unfair.

You should not seek honors from people whose honor you do not genuinely desire.

105 posted on 01/30/2003 9:29:35 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: tallhappy
>>It is the same as asking if your favorite color is blue and refusing a recommendation over that<<

How you interpret Genesis, microevolution, the fossil record, and the meaningof life is not a trivial personal preference like your favorite color.

106 posted on 01/30/2003 9:32:16 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: ContentiousObjector
Your ability to regurgitate creationist excrement does not reflect in any way on your performance in a biology course.

I --to some degree-- enjoy it when those holding positions such as yours give to the lurkers such sophisticated arguments against creation.

107 posted on 01/30/2003 9:33:46 AM PST by Dataman
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To: sphinx
You are right - I agree with everything you said. It is more than a little crappy to apply this type of litmus test to a student asking for a recommendation.

At most, the professor should ask the student to demonstrate knowledge of the theory, not agreement with it.

Since the professor appears to be within his legal rights, all students/parents can do is vote with their feet & pocketbooks.

108 posted on 01/30/2003 9:34:35 AM PST by BearCub
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To: ContentiousObjector
Left wing lunatic fringe science // religion // politics // philosophy ===== evolution !
109 posted on 01/30/2003 9:36:36 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: ContentiousObjector
Your ability to regurgitate creationist excrement does not reflect in any way on your performance in a biology course.

Nor does one's belief/disbelief in the completely unproven (and always changing to accomodate the lack of evidence) theories of evolution.

110 posted on 01/30/2003 9:37:26 AM PST by BearCub
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To: BearCub
Check out the requirements from this pinhead professor


http://www2.tltc.ttu.edu/dini/Personal/letters.htm
111 posted on 01/30/2003 9:38:25 AM PST by matthew_the_brain
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To: Dataman
I agree…
It is unfortunate that, as you said, “In college level courses like philosophy, the students are exposed to many contradictory philosophies.”. But in science they are exposed to only one philosophy:

“Douglas Futuyma's text (Evolutionary Biology, 3rd edition) he writes: "By coupling the undirected, purposeless variations to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made the theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous."

" Purvis, Orians and Heller, (in Life: The Science of Biology, 4th edition) tell students that, "the living world is constantly evolving without any goals.. . .evolutionary change is not directed."

113 posted on 01/30/2003 9:38:44 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: OperationFreedom
Thats true...I did assume that.
114 posted on 01/30/2003 9:40:08 AM PST by Adder
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To: ContentiousObjector
You have to be blind // dense to swallow evolution !
115 posted on 01/30/2003 9:40:46 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: f.Christian
You have to be blind // dense to swallow evolution !

It's a pattern among these types. You also have to be blind // dense to condone the murder of millions of unborn children, while considering slavery our nation's greatest moral failing.

117 posted on 01/30/2003 9:46:16 AM PST by arm958
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To: arm958
You just can't see the forest through the trees, can you? Blue winged and gold winged warblers are obviously variations of the same species. Is that so hard to understand?

Apparently it is for the American ornithological community, which has disagreed with you for well over 100 years. Let me remind you. I took exception to the statement 'Biology is biology regardless of evolution.' The two warblers I mentioned were classed as different species before Darwin even came along. They've continued to be classed as different species. You are proposing they are the same species, simply because their being different species causes difficulties for your anti-evolution position. Thus biology isn't biology regardless of evolution. If you're anti-evolution, that causes you to merge what are considered distinct species.

118 posted on 01/30/2003 9:50:09 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Jim Noble
This is a bad idea, even if this professor is being unfair. You should not seek honors from people whose honor you do not genuinely desire.

No disagreement on that. A reading of the full article reveals the prof requires anyone desiring a letter of recommendation to give his opinion as to how life originated. These are the basic problems with that:

Didn't we all shame the USSR when they used atheism and evolution to keep dissenters from good jobs and schools? Now we are doing the same thing!

119 posted on 01/30/2003 9:51:41 AM PST by Dataman
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To: OperationFreedom
than would you please specify the difference on your profile?

First you butt into my field, now you want to change my profile. Sheesh!

120 posted on 01/30/2003 9:52:26 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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