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Ads Rushing Out Of Limbaugh Show?
CBS MarketWatch.com ^ | 01/29/2003 | William Spain

Posted on 01/29/2003 9:40:55 PM PST by SierraWasp

Ads rushing out of Limbaugh show? Progressives take aim at radio program's sponsors

By William Spain, CBS.MarketWatch.com Last Update: 12:04 AM ET Jan. 30, 2003

CHICAGO (CBS.MW) - A Rush to the exits?

Though still in its infancy, a letter-writing campaign aimed at advertisers on "The Rush Limbaugh Show," has already claimed a few choice scalps -- and hopes to soon have other marketers saying "ditto."

Kicked off last week on the website of a group called Take Back The Media, the effort is generating a growing buzz among online progressives (or, if you prefer, "liberals") -- along with hundreds of angry e-mails to companies that sponsor what it calls Limbaugh's "hateful chortling and guffawing."

Micheal Stinson, a Vietnam-era veteran, is co-founder of Take Back The Media. Obviously never a Rush fan, Stinson and his cohorts were content to largely ignore the king of reactionary talk radio -- until he weighed in on the recent anti-war protests, calling participants "anti-American," "anti-capitalist" and "communists," among other terms.

"He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country."

When he decided to go after Limbaugh, Stinson said "we were told we would have to nip at his heels, to start by contacting local advertisers." He ignored that advice, however, and posted a list, complete with contact information, of top sponsors.

"Within 18 hours, RadioShack (RSH: news, chart, profile) had folded. Within 36 hours, Amtrak was gone and Bose told us they were no longer advertising on the show," Stinson said.

Oddly, Stinson's group is not only telling the rest of the world which companies advertise on Limbaugh's show but, apparently, even the companies themselves.

In RadioShack's case, the company maintains that it does not buy ads on Limbaugh's show and any that did air were "the result of an "error made by the radio network or local affiliate."

RadioShack, the company continued, "strictly adheres to a policy of not intentionally buying advertising space on programs that might be political or socially controversial or that promote any one individual's agenda or point of view."

Amtrak says the ads aired as part of a complicated barter deal involving, strange but true, the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau. It does not sponsor political shows and "'in the future...will communicate [that] practice to" other partners.

Although Stinson said he has reports of its ads appearing during the show, a spokeswoman for Bose told CBS.MarketWatch that its does not advertise on the program, "and has no intentions of doing so."

Other advertisers targeted by Take Back the Media include Darden Restaurants (DRI: news, chart, profile) Red Lobster chain, Pfizer (PFE: news, chart, profile) AutoZone (AZO: news, chart, profile) and online retailer Overstock.com (OSTK: news, chart, profile) -- none of which would comment.

Limbaugh is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks, a subsidiary of radio behemoth Clear Channel Communications (CCU: news, chart, profile). While not addressing whether the show had lost any advertisers as a result of the boycott, Premiere issued the following written statement:

"There have been many times in the 15 year history of 'The Rush Limbaugh Program' when national and world events have generated increased listening as well as increased communication with individuals who have opposing points of view," said company president Kraig Kitchin. "The kind of compelling radio that generates opposition also causes Rush Limbaugh's weekly 20 million listeners to tune in that much more and listen longer."

That audience number is likely exaggerated (other estimates put it closer to 15 million) but there is no question that Limbaugh is big, big, big and one of medium's biggest single stars.

So, can a few scrappy liberals really hurt him?

Depends. A lot of radio time is bought pretty much on a commodity basis, with advertisers looking for dayparts and regions rather than specific programming. Many may not even know where their ads appeared until after the fact. And, unless they have given their buyers up-front marching orders to avoid him (already not uncommon), Limbaugh's powerful ratings guarantee a piece of that action. Of course, there are plenty of other options that can deliver similar numbers.

Whether or not the boycott works to any meaningful degree is going to depend on how many more advertisers decide it is easier to switch than fight. According to radio buyers, some companies cave almost instantly in the face of even a little negative feedback while others need to experience a truly sustained and widespread level of complaints before they listen.

Still, they don't have to get them all to make a difference: If enough advertisers put out the word that the show is a forbidden zone -- and they are not rapidly replaced -- the program will lose much of its economic value to local stations and station groups regardless of how well its audience numbers are doing. Of course, the already-loaded Limbaugh is never going to have trouble putting food on the table, but he and his fans could end up in less desirable timeslots or on fewer outlets.

Historically, the boycott approach has a mixed record. One of the most effective boycotts of recent times was against Viacom (VIA: news, chart, profile) unit VH-1's "Music Behind Bars," a program that showcased the jailhouse jams of murderers, rapists and assorted other scum. An outcry from victim's rights groups, law enforcement officials and politicians had advertisers staying away in droves and the cable network quickly pulled the plug on the series. (Viacom is a significant shareholder in MarketWatch.com, the publisher of this report.)

The "Christian" right's attack on "NYPD Blue" in the early 1990s, on the other hand, was a complete failure. It initially scared off some marketers but the program's ratings and demographics were so good that it attracted business from sectors that don't sell to religious nuts anyway -- including movies, beer, cosmetics, designer clothing, etc. And the effort completely fell apart when the first big package-goods company (Unilever (UN: news, chart, profile), if memory serves) jumped in. "Blue" eventually went to become one of the most enduring and profitable shows in Disney (DIS: news, chart, profile) unit ABC's prime-time line-up.

What makes this attempt particularly interesting is that progressives typically eschew ad boycotts both for free speech reasons and because it is a favorite technique of their ideological opponents.

Stinson, however, is unapologetic about tearing a page out of the other team's playbook: "We are going to employ the tactics of those people -- and it's already working. We are hitting some nerves."

William Spain is a reporter for CBS.MarketWatch.com in Chicago.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
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To: SierraWasp
bump
241 posted on 01/30/2003 8:11:53 AM PST by fishtank
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To: kristinn
Try this link
242 posted on 01/30/2003 8:24:34 AM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
There aren't enough leftist talk radio listeners to organize a two-man circle jerk.
243 posted on 01/30/2003 8:25:28 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: SierraWasp
Here was my mail and reply from Bose. I did this a few days ago. Just didn't have the email on the home computer last night with my other post. Here's their response. Sounds good to me:

-----Original Message-----
From: (RL name deleted)
Sent: 01/24/2003 15:08:35
To: support
Subject: Advertising and Promotions

I can not believe Bose has caved into the stop-Rush-Limbaugh crowd. I have
read that Bose has stopped advertising on Rush Limbaugh's show because of
the complaints from these people that DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO HIS SHOW! If I
find that it is true that you are pulling your ads from his show over this I
promise I will never ever buy another Bose product. You can take that to
the bank. ....and not my money. Bose should not cave in to these liberal
complainers that don't even listen to his show.


Sincerly,

(RL name deleted)

***Their response:

Hello (RL name deleted),

Thank you for your inquiry.

To the best of our knowledge, Bose has not changed it's advertising policy
for any political reasons and is still advertising as usual.

Thank you for choosing Bose Corporation
Customer Support Team


Bose Corporation - Contact Information

US Telephone: (800)999-2673, ext. EM1
International Tel: (508)766-1099, ext. EM1
Fax: (508)820-3465
Email: http://www.bose.com/contact_us/


244 posted on 01/30/2003 8:31:13 AM PST by RiVer19
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To: Pokey78
Well, I cut up my Radio Shack card 3 years ago, I don't ride AmTrak, and there goes my Bose radio I was considering.

Both sides practice boycotts and always have. They seldom work, for either side.

245 posted on 01/30/2003 8:36:31 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: borisbob69
I'm both honored and offended:)

Since all this discussion started, I've heard Sam Donaldson would be the Left's answer to Rush; now we have this guy and the rest of the story. It's starting to appear that the mainstream leftists media is actually feeling like "fair" "truth" "reporting" "of" "FACTS" is something that they beleive is untrue - according to their sources.

246 posted on 01/30/2003 8:50:08 AM PST by Jumper
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Here are my thoughts on this subject.

For those idiots out who are bitching and moaning about why we are making such a big deal about this, here's why. The jerkoffs organizating this boycott are the very same people who not only do not like our political beliefs but want to punish us for holding and/or expressing those beliefs by marching us all to the gulags.

This battle to save the Rush Limbaugh show is a matter of us christians and conservatives continuing to exist in our own communities or being dragged out of our communities and sent to the gulags and possibly even worse.

That's why it's so vital that we contact the advertisers othe Limbaugh and express our support for this show.

Rush is away on golf tour duty this week and next week and that's why they're doing this B.S. and C.F. They know he won't be back until week after next.

It's time to send a message to these punks that:

WE CONSERVATIVES AND CHRISTTIANS ARE NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED OR INTIMIADATED INTO SILENCE ANY LONGER!!!!!

It's time to face reality, folks. Either your're with us or against us. Where do you stand in this battle?
Regards.

247 posted on 01/30/2003 9:00:19 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SierraWasp; TLBSHOW
This is the lw "progressive" spearheading the harassment or Rush's advertisers, the pic speaks for itself.

http://www.mrnice.com/meet.html

248 posted on 01/30/2003 9:19:14 AM PST by finnman69 (Bush Cheney 2004)
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To: martin gibson
I'll be glad to help correct the record.

I saw him on TV last night; he's quite vile.

249 posted on 01/30/2003 9:22:33 AM PST by Howlin
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To: E.G.C.
Just a reminder, according this group's webpage - this is what angered the so-called "progressives":

Rush Limbaugh calls War Protesters "Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist Marxists and Communists"!!

So...what's the problem? The fact that our local, national and international mainstream media chose to lie about these so-called "peaceniks" is the problem. Rush told the truth. A few hundred thousand AP, BBC, ABC, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Gannett, etc., reporters chose to lie.

We have a problem with the information peddlers in America - those professional news people pretending to be objective while pushing leftist propaganda. At the end of the day, their gravitas is lacking and their war room and all of their minions in the press will not find a smoking gun to take down Rush.

250 posted on 01/30/2003 9:40:15 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (289 Million Americans Avoid Peace Rallies. Press cover-up bigger than Watergate!)
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To: SierraWasp
Huh, and I was going to buy a couple top shelf, premier Bose systems. I'll live without them. Isn't Stinson positioned as a 'human shield' (as if his flesh will stop a whistling guided missile) yet?
251 posted on 01/30/2003 9:46:59 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (This space for rent (Not accepting bids from the United Nations))
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To: SierraWasp
It's getting near time for a hunting season (no bag limit) on communists residing in America...
252 posted on 01/30/2003 9:52:48 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (This space for rent (Not accepting bids from the United Nations))
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Excellent points. Thanks for bringing that up.
253 posted on 01/30/2003 9:54:37 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SierraWasp
Liberals HATE free speech when it is speech used to expose them. Communists are always liars and cheats.

Maybe Rush should file a tortuous interference lawsuit in the fact they are using slander and libel against him.
254 posted on 01/30/2003 10:24:27 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican (Let's all pay our fair share...make the poor pay taxes! They pay nothing!)
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To: PatrioticAmerican
""He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country." ""

I think an outright Traitor is more like it. Benedict Arnold was a solder too, dumbass.
255 posted on 01/30/2003 10:27:43 AM PST by ohioman
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To: rep-always
I guess we are the only ones that care about this...
256 posted on 01/30/2003 10:52:55 AM PST by Captainpaintball (A crutch may help you walk, but it can never make you run!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Since I own a Bose wave radio I can say that it is an overpriced piece of junk. A similar product can be purchased for half the price.
257 posted on 01/30/2003 10:55:18 AM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: Pokey78
Despite the ads stating that Radio Shack isn't asking for names and addresses any more.......

I purchased a $10 item the other day and remarked that I was pleased not to have to get into an argument over the requirement to give my name and address.......they stated that if you buy anything that might be returned you still MUST give the name and address...........

258 posted on 01/30/2003 10:57:28 AM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: SierraWasp
So, can a few scrappy liberals really hurt him?

In short, NO.

259 posted on 01/30/2003 11:00:04 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Captainpaintball
"religious nuts"

I caught that too. The dope is willfully ignorant. When good people who want to maintain some morals and object to things thought distasteful isn't that they're being nutty.

It's pitiful when people like this guy with a broken moral compass have such contempt for what they haven't got a clue.
260 posted on 01/30/2003 11:11:35 AM PST by time4good
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