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Tourism office touts state (Delaware) smoking ban -Yeah this going to work
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Posted on 01/25/2003 8:00:03 AM PST by qam1

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:01:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As opponents of the smoking ban rally to change the legislation they say is choking business, the state's tourism office is using the ban as a selling point.

The tourism office, in partnership with the state Division of Public Health, recently launched a $60,000 print, radio and billboard campaign designed to lure people from neighboring states to Delaware, selling them on the idea that they can "Eat, drink and breathe easy!" in the First State.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cigaretts; delaware; pufflist; smoking
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* The anti smoking Nazis are so predictable, If what they do wasn't so devistating to people's lives it would actually be fuuny. Of course they can't come out admit they were wrong, So they blame it on the B.S. excuse that people just don't know about the ban. So of course they are milk it by spending $60,000 of tax payer (much of it of course from smokers themselves) on a futile advertising campaign.

* Gimme a break, Yeah somehow only smokers heard about the ban but nonsmokers didn't.

* It just shows the obvious, That most non-smokers don't give a rat's ass about smoking in bars/restaurants/casinos (While obviously smokers do.) Do these people really believe some non-smoker in South Jersey or in the middle of Pennsylvania is going to say to themselves "There is no smoking in Delaware lets go the there". Sorry the only people who care that much about smoking are the anti-smoking Nazis who make up only 1-3% of the population. And I am sorry but the Anti smoking Nazis aren't the type of people who go to bars or casinos or spend a lot of money at restaurants because other people there are having fun and for the most part the antis are the most miserable, unfunloving people in America.

* And who are they kidding. Even if somehow it were true that the people in the neighboring states somehow never heard about the ban where are all the nonsmoking people from Delaware that were supposedly going to go out more if the ban went into effect.

* Plus I love this quote "designed to lure people from neighboring states to Delaware, selling them on the idea that they can "Eat, drink and breathe easy!"".

Sounds like a good idea!!!, Lure people to Delaware from far away to drink there, Just what the roads in Delaware needs more of people driving who have been drinking.But hey if a family with children gets mowed down at least they didn't die of second hand smoke.

* Quote "Carrie Leishman of the Delaware Restaurant Association said she prefers the new billboard to an existing billboard on I-95 south, which just reminds drivers of the ban and provides an 800 number to report violators. You know what a way to promote your state. Put 800 numbers on billboards on the roads where you can snitch on other people trying to eek out a living.

* This Carrie Leishman has got to go, She has obviously put her personal hatred of smoking above the welfare of the restaurant owners she is supposed to represent. As a first step the restuarant people have got to get rid of her ASAP. I am sorry but if they don't at least try to remove her as their representative they deserve what they get

1 posted on 01/25/2003 8:00:03 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
Why would any sane person want to go to Delaware anyway?

I have never heard of anyone being excited about vacationing in Delaware!

2 posted on 01/25/2003 8:03:03 AM PST by waterstraat
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To: qam1
"The anti smoking Nazis are so predictable, If what they do wasn't so devistating to people's lives it would actually be fuuny"

Yeah kind of like the things that the anti-cannabis Nazis do, except that they haven't started to put cigarette smokers in prison. Not yet anyway.

3 posted on 01/25/2003 8:13:36 AM PST by Kerberos
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To: qam1; waterstraat
One can hope that they are very sucessful and that all the militant "non-smokers", genetically challenged wackos, and phobia driven morons move to Delaware and leave the rest of the United States for us to pollute, pillage, and burn.
4 posted on 01/25/2003 8:19:00 AM PST by G.Mason (Hey Ma? Put another log on the fire, will you?)
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One can hope that they are very sucessful and that all the militant "non-smokers", genetically challenged wackos, and phobia driven morons move to Delaware and leave the rest of the United States for us to pollute, pillage, and burn.

That place already exist it's called California.

5 posted on 01/25/2003 8:31:27 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
I'll tour Pyongyang before I ever see Delaware again. At least I could have a smoke after my bark sandwich.
6 posted on 01/25/2003 8:52:15 AM PST by Commiewatcher
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To: qam1
"That place already exist it's called California."

You're right, but i was thinking of being able to go there for a visit one day, and.... well....if all those aformentioned doo-dahs went to Delaware.......sigh.

7 posted on 01/25/2003 9:14:32 AM PST by G.Mason (Weigh down upon the Swami's liver)
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To: G.Mason
"One can hope that they are very sucessful and that all the militant "non-smokers", genetically challenged wackos, and phobia driven morons move to Delaware and leave the rest of the United States for us to pollute, pillage, and burn. "

Or conversely, since there are more non-smokers than smokers, maybe all of the ashtray smelling, nicotine stained fingers, bad breath smokers could all move to one state. Say maybe Alaska

8 posted on 01/25/2003 9:21:39 AM PST by Kerberos
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Or conversely, since there are more non-smokers than smokers, maybe all of the ashtray smelling, nicotine stained fingers, bad breath smokers could all move to one state. Say maybe Alaska

Yeah, And since we are at it since more people drive cars than SUVs maybe all of the road hogging, blocking your veiw, gaz guzzling SUV owners could all move to say Montana.

Give me a break, You are nothing more than another hypocrital, Pseudo-conservative who believes in freedom only as long they are freedoms you like.

But you know what if ALL the smokers did move to Alaska and the rest of the USA went smoke free the same thing would happen that is happening in Delaware. Alaska tourism would boom while the rest of the country would lose tourism.

9 posted on 01/25/2003 10:01:33 AM PST by qam1
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"We are the first state in the region to pass a comprehensive smoke-free law," the print ad reads. "So come visit us and enjoy a refreshing night out, since all our restaurants, bars, casinos and bowling alleys are now smoke-free." .......................

You will be bored so much you will go home rested (if not in withdrawal).
10 posted on 01/25/2003 10:09:11 AM PST by YOMO
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"Yeah, And since we are at it since more people drive cars than SUVs maybe all of the road hogging, blocking your veiw, gaz guzzling SUV owners could all move to say Montana. "

Oh no we couldn't do that because you see I own an SUV, and we wouldn't want to place restrictions on the group that I am a part of.

"Give me a break, You are nothing more than another hypocrital, Pseudo-conservative who believes in freedom only as long they are freedoms you like."

ROTFLMAO

Pseudo-conservative, now if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Yea but it was ok for conservatives to be persecuting marijuana smokers, a group that can be demonstrability shown to cause harm to no one but perhaps themselves, because after all it was immoral, we have to protect the children, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Never is there an argument from conservatives as to the rights of the individual for them.

But when the coercive power of the government is turn upon your group, because your drug of choice has now fallen out of favor, we all of a sudden have a problem. Yea it was lots of fun to be persecuting, and putting in prison, those dirty bong-worshiping hippies, but now that you are the one being persecuted, it's not as much fun is it?

As they say, as you sow so shall you reap. So for those of us who have actually been advocating the rights of the individual for many years, there is a certain amount of karmic justice in all of this.

11 posted on 01/25/2003 10:30:01 AM PST by Kerberos
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To: qam1
It will be interesting to see if this marketing effort works. I'll bet it does.

I have mixed emotions on this. Along with most conservatives, I believe the state should not be in the business of dictating public behavior to such an extent. Still, I'm tired of smelling like Joe Camel every time I come in from a night on the town. No, I don't think I'm going to contract lung cancer by having a drink at a bar with smokers present. But it sure is unpleasant.

Here in the heart of tobacco country, the only smoke-free reastaurants are the bean sprout and carrot juice type places. No thanks. Just once, I'd like to find a place where I could get a big rare steak and a bottle of Cabernet (I guess we all risk our health one way or another, eh?) without smelling the effects of people (even on the other side of the restaurant) who think it's perfectly normal to roll up dry leaves in paper, set it on fire, suck the smoke into their lungs, and exhale it for the "enjoyment" of all.

To me there is nothing that detracts from a fine wine like the odor of cigarette or cigar smoke. Isolation of smoke varies in its effectiveness from establishment to establishment, but the bar area, where I've been known to spend some time, always allows smoking.

Again, I am adamently opposed to government intervention along these lines. But maybe Delaware will end up being a lab of sorts, and some restauranteurs will see that there's a real market for smoke-free dining -- at least on the upscale end of the spectrum. Even as it is, generally speaking, the more expensive the restaurant, the lower the percentage of smoking customers; going smoke-free might be a relatively easy step for some establishments, and a profitable one, too.

12 posted on 01/25/2003 11:40:04 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (optional tag line, printed after my name)
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To: Kerberos
One can hope that they are very sucessful and that all the militant "non-smokers", genetically challenged wackos, and phobia driven morons move to Delaware and leave the rest of the United States for us to pollute, pillage, and burn.

This ones for you little guy!

13 posted on 01/25/2003 12:39:25 PM PST by G.Mason
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To: Kerberos
Repeating yourself. Is that really the best you can do?
14 posted on 01/25/2003 12:54:07 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: G.Mason
Repeating yourself. Is that really the best you can do?
15 posted on 01/25/2003 12:54:37 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: G.Mason
Delaware is a "Safe" and "locked" hillary state in 2004 and 2008, along with Massachussetts, Hawaii, Rhode Island, California, New York, Maryland, Conneitcut, etc. There is no need, no hope, for Bush to campaign in those states against hillary in 2004.
16 posted on 01/25/2003 2:43:33 PM PST by waterstraat
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To: southernnorthcarolina
I have noticed an interesting phenomenon in these discussions.

As a smoker, I quit eating out years ago - I have better food at home, and people seemed intolerant of my (smoking) behavior. The heck with it. I can burn my own black angus t-bone at home, smoke as I wish, drink what I want, no risk.

Lower cost, too. Not that it really matters.

Non-smokers, however, continue to eat out, glaring at anyone with the nerve to discomfort them, demanding that the world conform to their notion of what is proper.

Ms. Grundy comes to mind.

Why is that?

Is there a personality disorder that assures one "I have a RIGHT not to be offended?"

Kind of like Femminazis?

One wonders if you find the atmosphere of a steak house so offensive, you don't just eat at home?

"Avert thine eyes," as it were.

This morning, there was a long diatribe on FR by some kid (a teenage girl) in Chicago who insists that the world conform to her femminist notion of justice. In the article, she admitted that she hangs out in clubs, dresses "loosely", frequents dangerous areas, disdains guns and violence, and is attractive (her assessment - I have no clue). When men whistle as she walks by, they are "offending her rights."

Nevermind that she is a rich middle-class kid, dressed like a tramp, in the worst part of town, late at night.

What, I wonder, will happen to that kid?

Note that her troubles stem from ignoring reality, ignoring the desires of others, insisting that the world conform to her idealism, and insisting that it matters not where she is.

You have a lot in common.

17 posted on 01/25/2003 3:09:34 PM PST by patton (Amendment 9: All Rights Reserved)
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To: qam1
Does Delaware really exist? I have seen no actual proof of that fact. I think Joe Biden is making it up.
18 posted on 01/25/2003 3:11:04 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Gabz; SheLion
see above
19 posted on 01/25/2003 3:17:44 PM PST by patton (Amendment 9: All Rights Reserved)
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Would someone please provide a snail mail/E-mail address so I can inform the good State of Delaware why I will not be spending any money in their state on my cross-country jaunt this coming August? Thanx in advance...SSZ
20 posted on 01/25/2003 3:50:01 PM PST by szweig
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