1 posted on
01/24/2003 2:53:36 PM PST by
Nachum
To: Nachum
Muslims laugh now, but Fortuyn's message has gone mainstream, and his death elevated that female dissident to a very prominent position (there's nothing Muslims hate more than a former Muslim).
2 posted on
01/24/2003 3:01:08 PM PST by
xm177e2
(smile) :-)
To: Nachum; knighthawk
bump, ping.
3 posted on
01/24/2003 3:01:44 PM PST by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Nachum
4 posted on
01/24/2003 3:07:51 PM PST by
prisoner6
( I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! I am a FREE MAN!)
To: Nachum
When the islamis refer to their own situation, they corrall all other 'minorities' into their grievances. The only time they do. People from India were apparently some of the biggest supporters of Pim(RIP).
To: Nachum
I pity the Dutch. I read on another thread that 50% of the school age population of Rotterdam is now muslim.
I fear the Europeans are finally waking up to this catastrophe in their midst too late.
6 posted on
01/24/2003 3:11:38 PM PST by
ricpic
To: Nachum
"What's happening is beginning to feel like the 1930s when the Jews were scapegoated for the Depression, except this time it's the Muslims." Uh-huh. Except that in the 1930s the Jews hadn't done anything wrong - it was just paranoia. The Dutch Jews weren't organized into terrorist cells, or publicly calling for wifebeating, or declaring jihad on society.
7 posted on
01/24/2003 3:12:40 PM PST by
wideawake
To: Nachum
Since when is being "anti-muslim-flooding" racism?
Being a muslim isnt a race, its a religion. Its vile to hate someone because of their genetic make up, pigmentation, or heritage. I dont think wariness over people's life choices and religious-political affiliations is quite in the same league.
Thats sad when a racist doesnt even have to hate a race, just be wary of a religion that, when in control of a country, seems conducive to torture, violence, and hatred.
8 posted on
01/24/2003 3:14:09 PM PST by
CaptainJustice
(Support our troops as they take out the trash of the world!)
To: Nachum; knighthawk; SJackson
"What's happening is beginning to feel like the 1930s when the Jews were scapegoated
for the Depression, except this time it's the Muslims."
Except this time you jerks (Muslims) aren't scapegoats...YOU ARE THE PROBLEM...
Well, actually your ideology (disguised as a monotheistic religion) has caused
the current recession/depression.
The slow, lingering death of commercial aviation, aggravation of the drop in
financial markets, provoking the need to divert resources into military/defense
hardware...
The actions of Islamic murderers is the direct, undeniable cause.
For anyone who caused one of the normal "troughs" of the business cycle to become
a very deep, long-lived valley...I can't think of ANY reason to like them...
Too bad you jerks didn't understand we have a President in place who won't put up
with murdering of our citizens...
11 posted on
01/24/2003 3:22:34 PM PST by
VOA
To: Nachum
Having spent 2 years in Holland and living in the old west of Rotterdam for 1 year (right across from that mosque) I can tell you first hand of the dire situation in Holland.
The majority of the muslims in Holland want nothing to do with Holland other than exploit the social services system and conduct organised crime. The proceeds are then funneled to the countries of origin (eg. Turkey, Morroco).
The prisions are filled (about 75% to 85%) with these muslims. The lax dutch court system generally gives these people extremely lienent sentences. It is not uncommon for a person to recieve 2 years for murder. This only exabercates the situation over there.
These people dont intermingle with the native population and have no interest becoming dutch (unlike the surinam and indonesian populations which have integerated nicely).
Imagine the current crisis with illegal aliens in the US times 100 and that is holland.
The problem in holland is that there is a very strong communist (socialist) party there that did not like the popular Pim Fortuyn movement. They used there powers (print and tv brainwashing) and crushed this popular movement.
The commies like immigration ... its easier to argue the need for a welfare state.
12 posted on
01/24/2003 3:30:12 PM PST by
ccc_jr
To: Nachum
let's pray for Holland. They have been a great country for centuries IMHO.
To: Nachum
It was their firebrand imam, Khalil el-Moumni, who set off the political whirlwind 18 months ago by calling Europeans "lower than pigs" for tolerating homosexuality With adults. But hey, if you've got a small boy you want to bugger, then by all means....
Fruitcakes.
To: Nachum
"We're very happy at the result but the anti-immigrant mood is still there and it's now out in the open. Two years ago you couldn't say 'the Netherlands is full' because you'd be prosecuted for racism but now you can say anything you want about Muslims. We thought we were accepted but apparently we're not," she said. How ugly, disgusting and abohorrent! ... I mean the idea of denying people free speech rights because their political poistions are not PC>
They actually prosecute people for their speech re: immigrants? .. . Thank heavens for the 1st amendment and woe on the Dutch for allowing a denial of their basic freedoms!!! ThoughtCrime and Orwellian speech codes are alive and well in Europe. Sad sad sad.
23 posted on
01/24/2003 6:38:44 PM PST by
WOSG
To: Nachum
The situation in countries like the Netherlands is going to get really ugly at some point. The urban Dutch themselves are almost totally degraded at this point. Few marry. Very few have children. Homosexuality and all types of sexual deviance is rampant.
Meanwhile, you have muslims pouring in who view such behavior as abhorent (and for once, I agree with them). Is there any doubt that if the muslims become a numerical majority, they will tinker with the "vice" laws that the Dutch have let lapse for so long? The Dutch are either going to have to close the borders fast, or else become a persecuted minority in their own country.
Thus the inevitable end of another immoral socialist state...
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