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Muslims hail Dutch defeat of Fortuyn List party
telegraph.uk ^ | Filed: 24/01/2003 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 01/24/2003 2:53:36 PM PST by Nachum

Pouring out of Rotterdam's Al-Nasr mosque after prayers yesterday, Arabs and Berbers were ecstatic over the crushing defeat meted out to Pim Fortuyn's anti-Islamic party in this week's elections.

One let out a huge sigh of relief. "Very good," he said in mixture of broken Dutch and French before hurrying off to the Oude West, a sprawling Muslim city to the west of Rotterdam, the world's biggest port, where headscarves are de rigeur for women - brightly coloured for Turks, sombre for North Africans.

The mosque is a red brick edifice that blends into the Dutch cityscape in contrast to a garish greeny-pink mosque with towering minarets nearby built by Turks. An Islamic slaughterhouse is across the road.

None cared to linger with a snooping foreigner but the mood was far less hostile than last May when the Fortuyn movement had just stormed to second place in the Dutch parliament, sending shivers through Holland's one million Muslims. Then strangers were ushered straight out of the door.

Al-Nasr mosque is under close surveillance by police. It was their firebrand imam, Khalil el-Moumni, who set off the political whirlwind 18 months ago by calling Europeans "lower than pigs" for tolerating homosexuality.

His sermons encouraged Dutch Muslims to beat their wives for disobedience, in breach of Dutch law, prompting a criminal inquiry.

His comments also prompted the homosexual Pim Fortuyn to declare cultural war in defence of Holland's easy going way of life, though Fortuyn had no inkling that his quixotic challenge would set off an earthquake and lead to his own assassination last May.

Jan Peter Balkenende, Christian Democrat prime minister, clinched a narrow victory over a revived Labour party, winning 44 seats in the 150-member parliament. Labour took 42 while the liberal VVD was third, winning 28 seats. Commentators say a grand coalition between the two is a possibility.

Marianne Vorthoren, a Muslim convert who now works for the Rotterdam Platform of Islamic Organisations, said the city's Muslims were rejoicing that the Fortuyn List had been slashed from 26 to eight seats.

"We're very happy at the result but the anti-immigrant mood is still there and it's now out in the open. Two years ago you couldn't say 'the Netherlands is full' because you'd be prosecuted for racism but now you can say anything you want about Muslims. We thought we were accepted but apparently we're not," she said.

Xinos Nicolakos, spokesman for Rotterdam's umbrella group of ethnic minorities, said Holland was on a knife-edge. "It's dangerous out there because discrimination can get out of control so easily once it starts.

"What's happening is beginning to feel like the 1930s when the Jews were scapegoated for the Depression, except this time it's the Muslims."

At the Rotterdam Stadhuis, where visitors are greeted by a statue of Winston Churchill in the garb of a Roman consul, Ronald Sorensen, the Fortuyn movement's local leader, said his party was the real winner, even if it had proved itself unfit for office during its 87 days in government.

"We had a problem with the 25 lunatics on the list below Pim Fortuyn. They quarrelled so much they spent their time wanting to punch each other on the nose instead of thinking about their jobs," he said.

"But it doesn't matter because everybody else has taken over our policies. They may get the power but we win political debate: multi-culturalism in the Netherlands is finished."


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To: facedown; VOA; Nachum
Their laughing will go over soon. Nawijn, the former minister of immigration and integration (LPF) decided today to rejoin the LPF and take on of the 8 seats.

And if the CDA and VVD decide to form a coalition with the LPF, it might well be he will be minister again.
21 posted on 01/24/2003 5:14:45 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: Ichabod Walrus
>>Yeah, they could be bought and sold "illegally" in Turkey instead.

Evidence?
22 posted on 01/24/2003 5:36:04 PM PST by a_Turk (The price of oil is always high.. Question is who pays it.)
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To: Nachum
"We're very happy at the result but the anti-immigrant mood is still there and it's now out in the open. Two years ago you couldn't say 'the Netherlands is full' because you'd be prosecuted for racism but now you can say anything you want about Muslims. We thought we were accepted but apparently we're not," she said.

How ugly, disgusting and abohorrent! ... I mean the idea of denying people free speech rights because their political poistions are not PC>

They actually prosecute people for their speech re: immigrants? .. . Thank heavens for the 1st amendment and woe on the Dutch for allowing a denial of their basic freedoms!!! ThoughtCrime and Orwellian speech codes are alive and well in Europe. Sad sad sad.

23 posted on 01/24/2003 6:38:44 PM PST by WOSG
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To: CaptainJustice
As you know, the 'multiculuralists' use the charged term 'racism' for any attempt to defend western civilization or its values from degradation. Even mentioning the cultural advantages of western civ can get you into trouble.

24 posted on 01/24/2003 6:42:37 PM PST by WOSG
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To: a_Turk
See my other note regarding the abysmal lack of free speech wrt to "non politically correct" issues. These 'hate speech' codes are just a way to shut up dissent and opponents of multiculturalism, open borders and reverse discrimination.

But opposing free speech is a fundamental denial of freedom.

It is abhorrent, and Libertarians should note that lax drug and sex laws DONT REALLY GIVE YOU FREEDOMS. Rather, it is a way to keep you distracted by your LACK of freedom.

Food for thought.
25 posted on 01/24/2003 6:45:54 PM PST by WOSG
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To: WOSG
Having lived through years and years of terrorism, I find it difficult to decide which of these two evils is worse: Terrorism or child pornography.. I can duck bullets and bombs, but how does a little girl duck a government sanctioned rape?

Western, eastern, whatever the hell the civilization, free thinking men and women with heart are the only hope this damned planet has got.
26 posted on 01/24/2003 6:49:59 PM PST by a_Turk (The price of oil is always high.. Question is who pays it.)
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To: Nachum
The situation in countries like the Netherlands is going to get really ugly at some point. The urban Dutch themselves are almost totally degraded at this point. Few marry. Very few have children. Homosexuality and all types of sexual deviance is rampant.

Meanwhile, you have muslims pouring in who view such behavior as abhorent (and for once, I agree with them). Is there any doubt that if the muslims become a numerical majority, they will tinker with the "vice" laws that the Dutch have let lapse for so long? The Dutch are either going to have to close the borders fast, or else become a persecuted minority in their own country.

Thus the inevitable end of another immoral socialist state...
27 posted on 01/24/2003 7:32:02 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: knighthawk
And if the CDA and VVD decide to form a coalition with the LPF, it might well be he will be minister again.

Let's hope that things go well and at least the LPF has a meaningful voice in the government.

28 posted on 01/24/2003 7:53:17 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Nachum
Sarcasm
29 posted on 01/24/2003 10:06:37 PM PST by Princeliberty
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