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To: Nachum
Having spent 2 years in Holland and living in the old west of Rotterdam for 1 year (right across from that mosque) I can tell you first hand of the dire situation in Holland.

The majority of the muslims in Holland want nothing to do with Holland other than exploit the social services system and conduct organised crime. The proceeds are then funneled to the countries of origin (eg. Turkey, Morroco).

The prisions are filled (about 75% to 85%) with these muslims. The lax dutch court system generally gives these people extremely lienent sentences. It is not uncommon for a person to recieve 2 years for murder. This only exabercates the situation over there.

These people dont intermingle with the native population and have no interest becoming dutch (unlike the surinam and indonesian populations which have integerated nicely).

Imagine the current crisis with illegal aliens in the US times 100 and that is holland.

The problem in holland is that there is a very strong communist (socialist) party there that did not like the popular Pim Fortuyn movement. They used there powers (print and tv brainwashing) and crushed this popular movement.

The commies like immigration ... its easier to argue the need for a welfare state.
12 posted on 01/24/2003 3:30:12 PM PST by ccc_jr
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To: ccc_jr
Wow, a first person report from someone who should know. Thanks for sharing. I bet a lot more people here would like to hear more of your experiences.
14 posted on 01/24/2003 3:37:08 PM PST by Nachum
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To: ccc_jr
The problem in holland is that there is a very strong communist (socialist) party there that did not like the popular Pim Fortuyn movement. They used there powers (print and tv brainwashing) and crushed this popular movement. The commies like immigration ... its easier to argue the need for a welfare state.

This is so hideous. It's like watching a friend be slowly eaten up with cancer.

17 posted on 01/24/2003 4:26:32 PM PST by wizardoz (Guess I'm a "religionist.")
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