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WHY DO OTHER COUNTRIES HATE US?
THE SATURDAY EVENING POST | 1914 | Cadillac Motor Car Co.

Posted on 01/21/2003 12:11:43 PM PST by Uncle Burt

Found this while pondering the question,why do other countries dislike us? Part of an ad in the Saturday Enening Post in 1914.

In every field of human endeavour, he that is first must perpetually live in the white light of publicity. Whether the leadership be vested in a man or a manufactured product,emulation and envy are ever at work. In art, in literature, in music, in industry the reward and the punishment are always the same. The reward is widespread recognition;the punishment, fierce denial and detraction. When a man's work becomes a standard for the whole world, it also becomes a target for the shafts of the envious few. If his work be merely mediocre, he will be left severely alone- if he acheive a masterpiece, it will set a million tongues a-wagging. Jealousy does not protrude it's forked tongue at the artist who produces a commomplace painting. Whatsoever you write,or paint, or sing, or build no one will strive to surpass, or to slander you unless your work be stamped with the seal of genius. Long, long after a great work or a good work has been done, those who are disappointed or envious continue to cry out that it can not be done. Spiteful little voices in the domain of art were raised against our own Whistler as a mountebank, long after the big world had acclaimed him it's greatest artistic genius. Multitudes flocked to Bayreuth to worship at the musical shrine of Wagner, while the little group of those whom he had dethroned and displaced argued angrily that he was no musician at all. The little world continued to protest that Fulton could never build a steamboat, while the big world flocked to the river banks to see his boat steam by. The leader is assailed because he is a leader and the effort to equal him is merely added proof of that leadership. Failing to equal or excel, the follower seeks to depricate and to destroy - but only confirms once more the superiority of that which he strives to supplant.

There is nothing new in this. It is as old as the world and as old as the human passions - envy, fear, greed, ambition, and the desire to surpass. And it all avails nothing. If the leader truly leads, he remains - the leader. Master poet, masterpainter, master workman each in his turn is assailed, and each holds his laurels through the ages. That which is good or great makes itself known, no matter how loud the clamor of denial That which deserves to live - lives.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dislike; envy; hate
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To: AbsoluteJustice
ignorant yes

My goodness. You've simply crushed my spirit.

Now, what in the hell makes you think it will be any different this time around than it was the last? That if we go in and it ends relatively quietly and quickly as it did last time (not damn likely) that anything will change? You are laying all your eggs in the getting rid of Saddam basket. Guess what? It didn't happen last time, did it? I'm sick of seeing these kids deployed all over the flipping world to deal with other peoples' conflicts. Or did it slip your mind that Iraq didn't invade us last time?

41 posted on 01/21/2003 1:25:13 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: pickyourpoison
"Your right."

Huh?

Is that a typo or ????

It makes no logical sense as written (maybe you mean: "You're right", as in "You are right") ...

42 posted on 01/21/2003 1:25:47 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Just a screw up. I was in too big of a hurry.
43 posted on 01/21/2003 1:29:01 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: ShadowDancer
What you want is to see his nuke factory. You want to see underground stock piles of chemicals stored in drums. And if you saw that would you approve of war.

This is madness.

I doubt a few inspectors will unearth it. I also have no doubt that if we wait till he is strong enough, that Saddam is mad enough to use all of it.

44 posted on 01/21/2003 1:33:38 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Uncle Burt
Maybe some of them don't like us because they know who's on our side.


45 posted on 01/21/2003 1:36:53 PM PST by stlrocket
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To: ShadowDancer
I happened to be one of those "kids" that you speak of when I was in the Marines 92-98. Let me share with you something a military member wrote on this matter today in the opinions section on MSNBC.

"I am a firefighter in the United States Air Force and am currently deployed to Afghanistan supporting the war on terrorism. I read your article on Monday on weekend anti-war protests. By reading the article and looking at the pictures, apparently none of the protesters mentioned are or were in the military. Apparently none of them are going to be affected by it in any way besides having to hear about some stuff on CNN. The president is not talking about a draft anywhere in the near future.
I believe that these protesters should go back home and (let) the thousands of other people that signed up to defend not only this country, but our allies, do our work. They need to realize (what) the inspectors finding numerous chemical warheads can lead to. Nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare is not a very pretty thing, so we must try to eradicate every possibility of it ever happening as soon as possible. The United States military is second to none, and there is a reason for that: the thousands of people who volunteer many years of their lives to protect the lives and freedoms of our great nation.
So to the protestors, I would like to say “Your voices have been heard, but now you must leave it up to the Commander in Chief and his military advisers to do what they feel is necessary to protect you from harm’s way.”


Keith Beckerich
Rapid City, SD
Unites States Air Force Fire Dept

What do I conclude from this?? I had the same feelings if I had been put in harms way. I knew that there is a bigger picture than just the normal civilian rantings about this and that about proof this and proof that. The proof is in the pudding my friend. Its been there for all to see. If you cannot see the obvious connections that have been there and the proof that Sadaam and Iraqi officials did meet with Al Queda in addition to the non-compliance then I can never sell it to you. Leave the defense of this country to the military and our elected leaders. Appears that "we" the military see the dangers.
46 posted on 01/21/2003 1:37:35 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice
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To: Michael81Dus
Most nations on this planets had horrible wars which affected many people - the US never had such a great war on their territory.

Have you had a chance to study what is called "The Civil War"?

http://www.civilwarhome.com/casualties.htm

The Price in Blood! Casualties in the Civil War

At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000. The number that is most often quoted is 620,000. At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation's loss in all its other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam.

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:

Battle deaths: 110,070

Disease, etc.: 250,152

Total 360,222

The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:

Battle deaths: 94,000

Disease, etc.: 164,000

Total 258,000


47 posted on 01/21/2003 1:45:56 PM PST by _Jim
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To: FreeTally
You do realize that we have troops stationed in over 100 different countries?
Tally, Are you insinuating that having U.S. Troops in a country = meddling in their business?.
Many of those U.S. troops are stationed abroad by invitation of their hosts. Kuwait, Korea, Kosovo, Bahrain, Afghanistan...all of these countries are arguably happy we came and happy we are staying. That is just a short list of happy sponsors.
Of course not everyone in the world likes us. Who cares. Democracy has this tendency to rub dictators, strong men, and communists the wrong way. Just as we see many in this country hate capitalism. Too Freeping bad. I think you can be a little more realistic as to why some idealogically impaired groups fight our presence.
48 posted on 01/21/2003 1:48:53 PM PST by ottersnot (prevent truth decay)
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To: ShadowDancer
I need some solid proof of Iraq's direct involvement in September 11 and so far I haven't seen it.

A common misconception that continues to this day and continually reinforced by media 'harping' and those whose present purpose in life is to hound the current administation ...

Iraq, being a member of the Axis of Evil as well as a violator of numerous UN resolutions as well as agreements reached at the end of the Gulf War faces now only *one* consequence for a failure to meet a clearly spelled-out ultimatum - invasion and a US-controlled disposition of it's leader ...

49 posted on 01/21/2003 1:56:07 PM PST by _Jim
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To: ShadowDancer
Guess what? It didn't happen last time,

A short-sighted observation that doesn't acknowledge the rules of engagement that were in effect for The Gulf War.

50 posted on 01/21/2003 1:59:24 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Michael81Dus
How dare you call the USA arrogant. We're lily white pure as the driven snow....

You want respect from the USA, Herr Michael?

Start a nuke program....LOL! Look at what it does for Pakistan and North Korea.
52 posted on 01/21/2003 2:05:27 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Motherbear
It's funny listening to Americans complain about smokers, drinkers, proice of potato chips, food portions etc in Europe. One was a very perturbed group perplexed that smokers were smoking in the NoSmoking area at an airport and that the cops and airport authorities couldn't care less. I stood and watched; it was entertaining.

53 posted on 01/21/2003 2:09:05 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Michael81Dus
but when only human rights are in danger, you do nothing or just little

An inaccurate statement.

Many NGO's ( non-governmental organizations) based out of the United States involve themselves in relief efforts in these and many other countries.

A lot more usually lies behind the scenes in this countries too -like *their own governments*, either explicitly or through out-moded, ineffective and dictatorial policies- which then hamstring any efforts by the people residing in those countries to better themsleves.

It's just flat amazing what the adoption of the rule of law in the way of The Constitution did for this country.

54 posted on 01/21/2003 2:09:39 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Motherbear
too many Americans walk around complaining about what other countries lack.

Aside from whether this was rude or not -

- was it not true that accomodations may actually have been *too small* and the cars to restrictive for comfort?

A lot of Americans now simply tower over their not-as-well-fed overseas brethren. (And I'm not considering the somewhat overwight or obese US traveller either!)

And as to the size of accomodations, transportation facilities and the like - we are talking about what is popularly described as 'socialist Europe', where (equivalently) gas is five dollars a gallon and the price (I'm sure) of home heating oil is similarly priced (not to mention natural gas) ...

55 posted on 01/21/2003 2:18:12 PM PST by _Jim
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To: swarthyguy
You want respect from the USA, Herr Michael?

Where was it he expressed that he was specifically 'looking for respect'?

Is this not something *all* people desire, indeed, is owed, by one member of civilized society to another member of civilized society?

The way you worded that question is more on a par with elementary school playground bullying.

56 posted on 01/21/2003 2:23:05 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Michael81Dus
Most nations on this planets had horrible wars which affected many people - the US never had such a great war on their territory.

Apparently you've never heard of the US Civil War.

No reasons are jealousy or envy, at least not in Europe.

Having had the experience of living in Europe as well as the US, I'd have to say that this is simply untrue. I've had countless Europeans assume that because I was an American I was much wealthier than they were - one incident that specifically stands out in my mind was when I went to buy a leather coat in Firenze and the very first coat I tried on in one store was just the design I liked and a perfect fit.

A group of young Italians immediately began whispering about how I was a typical American - here they were carefully looking, trying to shop on a budget and an American just waltzes in and buys the most expensive coat five seconds after he arrives!

Of course, the coat cost half of what I would have expected to pay in the US - I have many, many similar anecdotes, all of which involve Europeans assuming that I am some kind of millionaire, which I certainly am not.

There is clearly an envy factor involved. The standard of living in France, Spain and Italy is far below what most American suburbanites are accustomed to, and in Germany and Switzerland the standard US amenities are available, but are considerably more expensive.

Using your stated source of data, the CIA Factbook, the main European nations have an average spending power per citizen of between 52% (Spain) and 85% (Switzerland) of an American. This indicates that the average American has something like 30-50% more disposable income than the average European.

If Europeans are concerned about their economies (which they certainly are) and Americans appear to be so much better off, envy is quite natural.

And the fact that you are a European makes you less qualified to assess whether Europeans are envious or not.

Americans can certainly be arrogant - but Europeans are not immune to that vice. Americans can certainly be meddlesome, but this is also a vice which Europeans have been known to indulge in.

At the same time, Americans are also willing to accept the vast responsibilities those positions entail.

58 posted on 01/21/2003 2:25:08 PM PST by wideawake
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To: _Jim
>>elementary school playground bullying

Otherwise known as international relations.
59 posted on 01/21/2003 2:34:27 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Uncle Burt
Why do we give a rat's arse?
60 posted on 01/21/2003 2:45:50 PM PST by wattsmag2
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