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New Study Suggests Missing Link That Explains How Dinosaurs Learned To Fly
National Science Foundation Press Release ^ | January 16, 2003 | Kenneth Dial

Posted on 01/17/2003 6:35:24 AM PST by forsnax5

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The linked website has some video clips of chukar partridges demonstrating the concept...
1 posted on 01/17/2003 6:35:24 AM PST by forsnax5
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2 posted on 01/17/2003 6:37:02 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Related post: Bird wings can help keep birds down, not up (BREAKING)
3 posted on 01/17/2003 6:39:08 AM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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Early bird speculation Ping!
4 posted on 01/17/2003 6:39:11 AM PST by forsnax5
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Okay
5 posted on 01/17/2003 6:43:40 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: forsnax5
The other post beat you by a few minutes but I'll repeat my comment here.

I get it! Two legs and two flapping arms are better for climbing surfaces than are four grasping appendages. Sounds logical!

6 posted on 01/17/2003 6:48:57 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: forsnax5
As C.S. Lewis said:

Christians have to believe in a loving and all-powerful God.

Scientists have to believe that life spontaneously came into existence out of inorganic compounds, that this primitive life eventually evolved into plants, that the plants evolved into primitive animals, that the animals evolved into birds, insects, reptiles, fish, amphibians, and mammals. Scientists further believe that some of the mammals evolved into the primates, that some of the primates evovled into Neandethals with big brains, and that the big-brained Neanderthals were superceded by the small-brained Cro-Magnons. Scientists go on to believe that Cro-Magnons were in the world for 50,000 years without really amounting to much, until about 5000 years ago when things began to improve. Suddenly, after about a billion years of this evolution, scientists believe that we needed only 5000 years to go from living in caves to walking on the Moon.

I'm not a scientist. I don't have that much Faith.

7 posted on 01/17/2003 6:52:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: forsnax5
Hey... I saw a big friggin' turkey flying the other day.

First thing I thought was DINOSAUR!

Then again, I'm on medication and have a micro-chip in my neck!

8 posted on 01/17/2003 6:57:21 AM PST by johnny7 (There coming down the chimney!)
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hey, do you think if I flap earnestly and sincerely that I too, can sprout wings.
9 posted on 01/17/2003 7:10:10 AM PST by mamalujo
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YEC skeptical doubts. There are too many differences. Scales on dinosaurs were folds in the skin, not precursors to feathers, which are hair-like folicles. The bones of birds are hollow, dinosaurs are not. The respiratory systems are totally different: dinosaurs would breathe in and out, the way humans do. Birds breathe in only, and the air passes out a different route. Most importantly, the DNA information for the feathers and the respiratory system found in birds is not found in dinosaurs...the change from dinosaur DNA to bird DNA would be like trying to make a Tom Clancy book into a Barbara Bradford book after it was published...it just ain't going to happen.
10 posted on 01/17/2003 7:22:44 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: forsnax5
Interesting. Highly speculative, but very interesting...
11 posted on 01/17/2003 7:25:20 AM PST by general_re (Why PH never gets banned - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/589263/posts?page=21#21)
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I'm not a scientist. I don't have that much Faith.

Nor much curiosity, apparantly.

12 posted on 01/17/2003 7:25:22 AM PST by js1138
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I'm not a scientist.

Well, that's pretty obvious...

It IS possible to be a scientist and a Christian, you know. God made the Universe, and scientists study how it works. God gave you a mind. You should develop it.

13 posted on 01/17/2003 7:28:17 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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The linked website has some video clips of chukar partridges demonstrating the concept...

Major problem with their model...a chukar is already a bird...with bird DNA, with bird bones, and with a bird respiratory system. The chukar doesn't have to overcome the DNA/information deficiency that a reptile would. What amazing faith these scientists must possess!

14 posted on 01/17/2003 7:29:29 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Amen...and a Christian scientist has something going for him or her that the non-Christian doesn't - the knowledge that there is order and purpose in the cosmos...and it is there for us to discover and wonder about! Psalm 19
15 posted on 01/17/2003 7:31:06 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: forsnax5
maybe those penguins who are swimming in circles in SF are simply trying to evolve and fly out of there
16 posted on 01/17/2003 7:31:12 AM PST by meowmeow (maybe I should start flapping here at my desk...)
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Two-legged dinosaurs may have used their forelimbs as wing-like structures to propel themselves rapidly up steep inclines long before they took to the skies...

Yeah, right. What a laugh.

The new theory adds a middle step that may link two current and opposing explanations for how reptiles evolved into flying birds.

Sounds like they now have THREE "current and opposing" theories. And they say creationists will believe anything?

18 posted on 01/17/2003 7:33:57 AM PST by far sider
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Last week, I saw video of a bird called a cassawary. I have seen the remains of bird like dinasours with bony protusions along the ridge of their scalp. The cassawary had such a protrusion.

Cassawary=bird=dinasour qed

19 posted on 01/17/2003 7:34:45 AM PST by bert
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To: Motherbear
Yep!
20 posted on 01/17/2003 7:39:47 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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