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NFL: Giants would have been flagged if they spiked it
AP Via ESPN ^ | 1-6-03 | ANON

Posted on 01/06/2003 11:48:10 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: mhking
Speaking of that, it reminded me of the worst announcer -- Phil Simms. Simms NEVER argues with the refs. Ever. On that play he first said that they got the ball off on time and then said, "well, the officials look down at the ball and then up at the clock so sometimes you have a half a second." He's a total apologist for the officials every single time.
121 posted on 01/06/2003 12:41:27 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: dtel
And did you hear Brad Sham doing radio (via Westwood One) coverage of the Niners/Giants yesterday? He is very good.
122 posted on 01/06/2003 12:42:10 PM PST by Let's Roll
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To: Alberta's Child
I beleive there were no off-setting penalties on that play. I thought the flag for pass interference is picked up when the receiver being interfered with is ineligible.

You're right. I'm listening to WFAN and they said that no pass interference was called. However, if what I am hearing is correct, the NFL has apologized for not calling a pass interference call (the guy was elgibile), which would have resulted in off-setting penalties and the Giants would have gotten an un-timed down.

123 posted on 01/06/2003 12:42:23 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: AmishDude
"well, the officials look down at the ball and then up at the clock so sometimes you have a half a second."

And that was the exact point that I said, "Say what?"
124 posted on 01/06/2003 12:42:38 PM PST by Lee'sGhost
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To: Pharmboy
Fox commentator Cris Collinsworth

is an ass.

But, the Giants lost this game 4-5 different times, the whole team was to blame.

125 posted on 01/06/2003 12:42:59 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: ewing
Trouble is, even at the original spot, a field goal was an "iffy" proposition, considering the Giants' kicker. Falling on the ball and tacking on another 7 yards (I think that would have made it a 47 yard FG attempt) would have made the likelihood of making the kick from "iffy" to "pert-near impossible."
126 posted on 01/06/2003 12:43:20 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: discostu
"While the "tuck call" sucked, the Raiders should have never been in a position for that call to matter. They got the lead and started relaxing. They let the Pats back in the game and paid the price teams pay for doing that."

That is so true, and one of the biggest follies of the modern day NFL coach. Conservatism only works in politics, not in football.


127 posted on 01/06/2003 12:43:46 PM PST by walkingdead
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To: Lee'sGhost
Brister couldn't carry Jim Miller's jock much less Kordell's. Sometimes a change of scenery does wonders for a player. Stewart has paid his dues in Pittsburg and I would be willing to take a chance on him for the right price. However, anyone considering qbing for the Bears must be aware that that means about 8 games a yr. max. We have had one qb last an entire season in the last 10 yrs. and only a couple in the last 20. It is a curse.
128 posted on 01/06/2003 12:44:03 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: ewing
Ah, okay, then. So the thing then would be to do something to kill the clock as quickly as possible without a penalty, then call time. If he takes a knee, do the refs blow it dead, like they do if the QB does it, so does someone have to touch him? My guess is no if he lost control of the ball, then its like a fumble. Everyone has a shot at it. The holder has to pick it up and then get downed by a defender. So, just dive into the line and make contact with a defender, then take a knee, and call time. Of course, the defenders can avoid touching you to keep the clock going. That would be a strange sight, the offensive player running around trying to get touched and downed, and the defenders avoiding contact to keep the clock going...?

Of course, all this is easy for me (us) to say. We're not in the game under the gun with the season on the line. Still, as others have noted, the Special Teams coaches should have trained the players what to do in the event of various happenstances.

129 posted on 01/06/2003 12:44:27 PM PST by chimera
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To: Numbers Guy
Good post. Why not just throw it out of bounds?
130 posted on 01/06/2003 12:44:41 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: LdSentinal
WFAN may have gotten this story wrong. The intended receiver on that play was an offensive guard, so he was clearly ineligible unless he had lined up as an end and was announced as an eligible receiver.
131 posted on 01/06/2003 12:46:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: ThinkingMan
Yea, like I said earlier, we've (Raider fans) have had a good many years of living at the bottom (or near the bottom) of the pack. I've been glad to see them back these past couple of seasons. And yes, I most certainly did not enjoy most of the meetings with the Broncos over the past few years.... Like I said, a giant thorn in my side.... but of course thats what makes football so great!
132 posted on 01/06/2003 12:46:40 PM PST by walkingdead
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To: dfwgator
Personally I'd love to see the kicking game removed from football.

You want to remove the kicking from football? Huh?

133 posted on 01/06/2003 12:46:56 PM PST by Petronski
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To: CougarGA7
Or just as bad if not worse, they keep babbling on when the official is trying to explain a penalty - argh!!
135 posted on 01/06/2003 12:47:27 PM PST by Let's Roll
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To: Alberta's Child
Bad clock management is a symptom of his game day inadequacies...and it cost us the Arizona game. He's just no good on the sidelines. Period.
136 posted on 01/06/2003 12:47:51 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: ThinkingMan
GO BRONCOS (Although I am a J-E-T-S fan this week!)

Your comment, tied with your screen name, looks like an oxymoron.


137 posted on 01/06/2003 12:48:36 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: thefactor
ping
138 posted on 01/06/2003 12:48:56 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: LdSentinal
What was the offsetting penalty? There's no pass interference if the pass is to an inelligible receiver. Was there a hold or an offsides?
139 posted on 01/06/2003 12:49:30 PM PST by discostu
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To: Alberta's Child
WFAN may have gotten this story wrong. The intended receiver on that play was an offensive guard, so he was clearly ineligible unless he had lined up as an end and was announced as an eligible receiver.

Mike Francesa is saying that Siber (sp?) who fell down was lined up as an eligible receiver.

140 posted on 01/06/2003 12:49:30 PM PST by LdSentinal
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