Posted on 12/21/2002 2:30:44 PM PST by pabianice
2nd Amendment
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
Have you ever heard someone say gun control is a fine idea except that the Second Amendment prohibits it?
Its a popular sentiment. Fortunately, its not true.
The Second Amendment was never intended as a gun license for the entire American populace. As originally draftedand as consistently interpreted by the courts for more than a centurythe Amendment does not grant any blanket right to own a gun nor does it stand in the way of rational, effective gun control.
The idea of gun ownership as an American birthright is nothing more than a popular myth. Yet the controversy over gun control and the Second Amendment rages on.
As the nations oldest and most prominent defender of individual rights, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) holds the U.S. Constitution and its Bill of Rights in the highest regard. To clear up many misconceptions, what follows are some basic questions and answers about the Second Amendment and gun control.
Q The Second Amendment says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Doesnt it mean just that?
A There is more to the Second Amendment than just the last 14 words. Most of the debate on the Amendment has focused on its final phrase and entirely ignores the first phrase: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State . . ." And to dissect the Amendment is to destroy its context. While some scholars have suggested that the Amendment gives individuals the constitutional right to bear arms, still others have argued for discarding the Amendment as irrelevant and out of date. However, the vast majority of constitutional experts agree that the right to keep and bear arms was intended to apply only to members of state-run, citizen militias.
Q If it doesnt guarantee the right to own a gun, why was the Second Amendment included in the Bill of Rights?
A When James Madison proposed the Bill of Rights in the late 1780s, people were still suspicious of any centralized federal government. Just 10 years earlier, the British army been an occupying force in Colonial Americaenforcing arbitrary laws decreed from afar. After the Revolutionary War, the states insisted on the constitutional right to defend themselves in case the fledgling U.S. government became tyrannical like the British Crown. The states demanded the right to keep an armed "militia" a form of insurance.
Q What exactly is "a well regulated militia?"
A Militias in 1792 consisted of part-time citizen-soldiers organized by individual states. Its members were civilians who kept arms, ammunition and other military equipment in their houses and barnsthere was no other way to muster a militia with sufficient speed. Over time, however, the state militias failed to develop as originally anticipated. States found it difficult to organize and finance their militias and, by the mid-1800s, they had effectively ceased to exist. Beginning in 1903, Congress began to pass legislation that would eventually transform state militias into what is now the National Guard. Today, the National Guardand Army Reserveare scarcely recognizable as descendants of militias of the 1790s. The National Guard and Reserve forces, in fact, do not permit personnel to store military weapons at home. And many of todays weaponstanks, armored personnel carriers, airplanes and the likehardly lend themselves to use by individuals.
Q Does the Second Amendment in any way guarantee gun rights to individuals?
A No. The weight of historical and legal scholarship clearly shows that the Second Amendment was intended to guarantee that states could maintain armed forces to resist the federal government. Most scholars overwhelmingly concur that the Second Amendment was never intended to guarantee gun ownership rights for individual personal use. Small arms ownership was common when the Bill of Rights was adopted, with many people owning single-shot firearms for hunting in what was then an overwhelmingly rural nation.
Q Does the Second Amendment authorize Americans to possess and own any firearms they feel they may need?
A Clearly, no. The original intent of the Second Amendment was to protect the right of states to maintain state militias. Private gun ownership that is not necessary to the maintenance of militia is not protected by the Second Amendment.
Q Does the Second Amendment allow government to limiteven prohibitownership of guns by individuals?
A Yes. Federal, state and local governments can all regulate guns without violating the Second Amendment. State authorities have considerable powers to regulate guns. The federal government can also regulate firearm ownership, although some scholars believe that the federal power may not be as extensive as that of an individual state. California, for example, has limited the ability of local governments to regulate firearms. While the state has kept its broad regulatory power, cities and counties can only prohibit guns from being carried in public places.
Q How have the courtsparticularly the U.S. Supreme Courtinterpreted the Second Amendment?
A The Supreme Court has flatly held that the individuals right to keep and bear arms "is not a right granted by the Constitution." In the four cases in which the high court has addressed the issue, it has consistently held that the Second Amendment does not confer a blanket right of individual gun ownership. The most important Supreme Court Second Amendment case, U.S. v. Miller, was decided in 1939. It involved two men who illegally shipped a sawed-off shotgun from Oklahoma to Arkansas, then claimed the Second Amendment prohibited the federal government from prosecuting them. The court emphatically disagreed, ruling that the Second Amendment had the "obvious purpose" of creating state militias, not of authorizing individual gun ownership. In two earlier rulings in 1876 and 1886, the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment affected only the federal governments power to regulate gun ownership and had no effect on state gun control powers. Those cases, Presser v. U.S. and U.S. v. Cruikshank, formed the basis for the continuing legal decisions that the Second Amendment is not an impediment to rational gun control. In another case that the Supreme Court declined to review, a federal appeals court in Illinois ruled in 1983 that the Second Amendment could not prevent a municipal government from banning handgun possession. In the case, Quilici v. Village of Morton Grove, the appeals court held that contemporary handguns couldnt be considered as weapons relevant to a collective militia.
Q The National Rifle Association (NRA) says the Second Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear arms. Has the NRA got it wrong?
A Like any powerful special interest, the NRA works to secure its financial well being. It insists on a view of the Second Amendment that defies virtually all court decisions and contradicts findings of most legal scholars. In so doing, the NRA actively perpetuates a seemingly endless cycle of gun-related fatalities. The NRA intimidates politicians because it is very well financed and, like any wealthy single-issue special interest, can muster considerable pressure and scare tactics against legislators who oppose it. For decades, the NRA has effectively promulgated its message. Other voices have recently begun to be heard, however, including the public health community, civil rights and civil liberties organizations and groups committed to womens, childrens and family rights. The NRA implies that the Bill of Rights forces us to accept unlimited gun ownership and tolerate the human tragedies that guns cause in our society. That simply isnt true.
Q What are the Second Amendment positions of the American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of Massachusetts?
A For decades, both the national ACLU and its Massachsetts affiliates have agreed the Second Amendment guarantees only the rights of states to maintain militias. The national ACLU has urged caution over gun control laws that, though well intended, might infringe on other civil liberties. The ACLU of Massachusetts believes effective gun controlespecially of handguns and assault weaponsis essential to curbing the escalating violence in our society.
If that was so, they also left all the other enumerated rights up to the states. I don't believe it.
Rights are derived from our creator, not from any state or union of states.
http://www.aclu.org/PolicePractices/PolicePractices.cfm?ID=9621&c=25&Type=s
The national ACLU is neutral on the issue of gun control. We believe that the Constitution contains no barriers to reasonable regulations of gun ownership
I, for one, am shocked. I've defended the ACLU on several occasions here on FR, but you can now officially consider me an opponent of theirs. Granted, I still agree with them on several issues, but I simply cannot support an organization that claims to defend the constitution, but then picks and chooses which amendments it defends.
The American Certain Liberties Union reveals their agenda, and it has little to do with promoting liberty...
Actually, I didn't raise any "State's Rights" issues.
The 2nd Amendment guarantees a right to the people.
Your argument here is interesting though, because all the gun-grabbers seem to say the the "militia" refers only to the States. Which is it?
And BTW the argument about States haveing there own nuclear arsenals is a straw dog. The Nation Guard is a State instituion, and so far as I know they are not restrcited even by the looney left.
ML/NJ
That said, please see my posts above.
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