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Lott Apolgizes Anew-In Talks to Deliver Hour Long Address to Black Entertainment TV Next Week
CNN.com ^ | December 13, 2002 | Wire Report

Posted on 12/13/2002 3:59:31 PM PST by ewing

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:01:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Lott, 61 announced [during the speech] that he was in talks with Black Entertainment Television to deliever and hour long speech next week to talk about 'his hopes and dreams for people' regardless of their race.

Lott, who was greeted with hearty cheers from supporters at the start of the news conference, vowed not to step down from his leadership post, rejecting the suggestion by some that he is bigoted against minorities.


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To: holyscroller
The bad news is, that tour will last for at least two more years.

At least we can take solice from fact that Strom's birthday wasnt two months ago. If that had been the case we would have lost our majorities in both the House and Senate on November 5. Trent has to go before he does it again.

61 posted on 12/13/2002 4:41:09 PM PST by Dave S
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To: ewing
I am against the moves to push him to resign. I believe he should stay in the Senate.
62 posted on 12/13/2002 4:41:39 PM PST by yonif
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To: ewing
Fantastic.

Stuff like Lott said is said all the time...and it was not a comment about segregation, by the way.

Hillary Clinton was just looking for an opening to weaken the majority leader right before Bush begins his powerful policy push in January.

This will backfire on Dems. They are about to lose even more popularity.

63 posted on 12/13/2002 4:41:41 PM PST by what's up
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To: F16Fighter
I think he stood up like a man and took his beating. But while taking it he made it clear that he's not resigning for being accused of something he is not.

President Bush says it was a heartfelt apology and that he wants Trent Lott to remain as majority leader. He should know since I am now quite sure that he and Trent had a heart to heart.

64 posted on 12/13/2002 4:45:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: EternalVigilance
Done deal, eh?
65 posted on 12/13/2002 4:46:52 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: sinkspur
You did a good job here sink no matter where ti goes from here. Consider your hand shook.
66 posted on 12/13/2002 4:47:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: yonif
I am against the moves to push him to resign. I believe he should stay in the Senate.

You need to look carefully here. The ONLY ones who have raised the specter of him resigning from his Senate seat are his defenders.

The last thing those here who want him out of the Majority Leadership want is that...it would do nothing but empower Daschle, and is totally unneccessary.

After all, the Senate isn't going to expel him, and his constituents in MS sure aren't going to toss him from office for any of this. He'll probably win reelection with 70% of the vote.

67 posted on 12/13/2002 4:49:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: veronica
"Baloney. I agree with Mark Levin, who was on Hannity's show today. This is all about a Borking. It's a power play by the Democrats."

Actually, it's "ham" not baloney -- or more appropriately, "pork." Did you see the press conference today? All Lott talked about was all the wonderful jobs he's brought to Mississippi so that blacks could have a decent job, etc. It bothers me that black Americans see the Republican Party as against them. Our beliefs mean a better shot at life for them. Lott's remarks have destroyed any credibility we were building with the black community.

Get a clue - Integrity counts. Having a voice in the black community counts. Lott has destroyed that. He's a gross embarrassment and should resign as majority leader. He does NOT represent the Republican Party's view of minorities. Nor does he represent mine. And if he represents yours, you should be embarrassed.

68 posted on 12/13/2002 4:49:29 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: dogbyte12
Why do we have such retarded leaders?

Because we have this strange thing where people get to decide who will represent them.

Now, if you got to decide who represented all 280 million Americans, you'd be happy.

But nobody else would be.

69 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:03 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
He may decide to let the GOP Senate have another vote on him for Leader, but under no circumstances should he allow the race pimps, the I-hate-Trent-Lott-because-of-impeachment conservatives, or the Wall Street Journal Editorial Page force him out of office.

I can live with that. Allow all the Republican Senators including Talent, Coleman, Dole, Sununu, and Chambliss to have an opportunity to vote on Majority Leader. It was unusual for Lott to push his own re election up during the lame duck session.

70 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:11 PM PST by Dave S
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To: rabidralph
Having been raised in the South I have had those same thoughts, but if you even hinted at something like that you would be labeled a bigot. Integration was rammed down out throats. People are good, and if given enough time to resolve a problem whose time had come it would have been fine. The Northern liberals leadership were nothing but a bunch of commies who simply saw integration as another way to divide us to make us weak. The proof is look at the plight of the black man in this country forty years later. True it is mostly their fault for being so stupid as to let the government provide everything for them, where before there was a relatively thriving black middle class in the South
71 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:52 PM PST by dix
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To: F16Fighter
Done deal, eh?

Whatcha referring to?

72 posted on 12/13/2002 4:51:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dfwgator
Most will see it as a desperate attempt at damage control and nothing more.

No. That's how you see it. We'll have to wait and see how most Americans will see it.

73 posted on 12/13/2002 4:51:30 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: ewing
The mistake here is twofold. First, he is implying that his remarks to Thurmond were somehow an insult to the Black Entertainment Network audience. They were not that unless you accept certain leftwing presumptions that Negro Americans need leftwing programs in order to advance. Many of us would deny that those programs are even beneficial.

Secondly, he is keeping a controvery going, that his enemies have stirred up out of next to nothing at all. As I posted a few minutes ago on another thread:

I am getting rather tired of feeling a need to post in Trent Lott threads. My feeling is that Lott has been too moderate, for too long. But to give credibility to attacks on him for praising the Conservative stalwart Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday, is beyond absurd. It undermines the coming together of Conservatives, necessary for any of us to have much hope of advancing any of our agendas.

The Left has drummed this up, not because the public cares what anyone's historic sentiments may be. The public is interested in stands on issues on the table today--and many of them probably wish some of the 1948 issues were back on the table, but that also is beside the point. It is really only Conservatives, who care rather passionately about yesteryears' issues. It is in our Conservative nature. And the Left keeps trying to trigger a melt-down of Conservative ranks, by trying to stir up arguments over historic issues--what they see as our Achilles' heel. That is what all the hoopla over the Confederate flag is all about, also.

That Lott is falling all over himself to apologize for a harmless sentiment, is to his discredit. But to purge him while anything associated with this is going on, will not only tend to divide the Conservative base; it will be picked up by the media as a repudiation of Strom Thurmond, and those Thurmond brought into the Republican Party, when he switched in 1964 to support Barry Goldwater. Whether some of those calling for Senator Lott's scalp--in a frankly silly panic to humor a completely contrived outpouring--understand the point or not, you can be certain that the propagandists of the Left will exploit such a purging in precisely that manner.

The Left will also try to use this to prevent any reexamination of the assumptions underlying all American Social policy since the middle of the last Century--not just questions that involve race, but questions that involve the whole question of whether the rich exploit and hold down the poor, etc.. Many, who have uncritically accepted the Socialist rationalizations for the differences in human achievement, on America's college campuses in recent decades may not even be aware how deep the distortion of all issues involved, has actually been. But the racial assumptions of the Left are only one manifestation of a much broader and deeper concept--the fundamental idea that runs through every form of Socialism, including the Nazi, that you can remake mankind by remaking his socio-economic environment.

If you once realize that you cannot, you will understand the Achilles' Heel of the Left. It is to prevent that understanding, that they always scream, whenever anyone questions the interchangeability of human types, whether the issue is race, ethnicity, class, or whatever. It is the same underlying fallacy that underlies their immigration policy.

Republicans should have laughed off the attack on Lott. The correct answer was, "We are not going to apologize for a sentiment that a Senator expressed over an election that took place over 54 years ago. We will discuss any current issue. But we will leave anything over half a century past to the historians to argue over." That and a smiling reference to the fact that the Lott comment was a personal tribute to a well-loved Senator on his retirement, would have been sufficient. Apologetic arguments seldom fly. The Democrats understand this, I do not know why we do not.

On that last, I will cite just one clarion example. A couple of weeks before the Goldwater/Johnson election, the assistant on Johnson's staff who was the first one he saw in the morning and the last one he saw at night, was arrested in a D.C. area Men's Room--caught in a Homosexual Act. How did Johnson handle that? He never discussed it. It simply was treated as though it never had happened!!

Anyone who thinks that a statement in honor of a birthday "boy," to the effect of "Gee, wouldn't have been great for America if you had been elected President, 54 years ago," has the same potential legs as the story Johnson killed by simply ignoring it, doesn't begin to understand the capacity for scandal.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

74 posted on 12/13/2002 4:51:43 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: ewing
I checked it out...

I also wasn't alive yet when all this happened, so feel free to argue all you want about it, 'specially if u R a 'dim.

I wish we could all just drop this non-issue soon. I think it is a MUCH larger story that Al-Qaeda now has VX gas, and a tiny droplet no bigger than the width of a human hair will kill you in less than a minute. Your muscles will convulse and spasm violently until your spine snaps like a chicken-bone.

75 posted on 12/13/2002 4:53:55 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: holyscroller
If it last much longer it will start to work against the Democrats.

This man has done everything he can to apologize for remarks he never meant to be racist. He has consistently said the remarks were only meant to cheer up an old man. A man Lott respected a man that has been in elected office in Washington longer than anyone else. A man who came to see his 1948 ideas were wrong and changed them. A man who has done our country great service as the head of the Defense committee and Law Enforcement committee.

I believe this will soon work against the Democrats especially after Lots appearance on BET.


Furthermore no one suggest any particular Senator who could do a better job. Come on suggest one or get behind Lott.
76 posted on 12/13/2002 4:54:00 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: F16Fighter
What say you?

I will not leave over something I'm not.

Bush just came out with another statement of support.

If Lott chooses to have another vote of confidence, he can do that.

But, if he decides to stay, and Bush supports him, and his GOP counterparts support him, that's the end of it.

77 posted on 12/13/2002 4:54:07 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: jwalsh07
"I think he stood up like a man and took his beating. But while taking it he made it clear that he's not resigning for being accused of something he is not."

Took his beating -- that he did. But now he is behaving as a remorseful, guilty sort -- as though he indeed has a debt to pay. How effective as a conservative Republican will he be now that he feels he's got a tab to pick up and how big will it be?

The man had NO bite as a "Leader" before this debacle -- after watching him earlier, he's got nothing left in the tank down the line.

78 posted on 12/13/2002 4:54:18 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: EternalVigilance
"Whatcha referring to?"In your opinion, you feel Lott should be jettisoned as "Leader", or period?
79 posted on 12/13/2002 4:55:40 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: sinkspur
It took three apologies to get to a close approximation of an apology. There's a difference between apologizing and doing the right thing - in other words, paying for the damage you've done. Maybe you've heard of the word "justice?" Or then again, maybe not.
80 posted on 12/13/2002 4:55:53 PM PST by Endeavor
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