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1 posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:43 AM PST by SJackson
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...they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

Would it be un-PC to suggest that we refer to them as 'Target-Rich Environment'? How about 'Big Bundle O'Traitors', available at Sam's Club?

Sorry if that sounds over the top. I don't have a problem with anti-war protests per se, but in this case I believe regime change is unquestionably necessary, and I believe that these wacko celebrities are using their fame to act like they know more about national security than our own leadership. Maybe if Clinton were in power they would be justified, but they seem to have forgotten that President Bush (with help from other countries, granted) liberated Afghanistan.

I'm too mad to type any more coherently, so I'll leave it at that.

61 posted on 12/11/2002 6:59:09 AM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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The one skill you must have to be an actor is the ability to lie convincingly. Other than that, the job is lacking in skill.

Ask yourself the following question: What profession can a 10 year old master and receive critical acclaim for on a national stage?

Any 10 year old doctors at the top of their profession? Any 10 year old rocket scientist? Engineers? Journalist? Writers? Teachers? Garbage collectors? Fast food store managers? Waitresses? Nope. All those professions require skill.

Ten year old actors? Yes, when the only skill involved is the ability to lie convincingly is it any wonder these people looked up to Bill Clinton, democrats and other well known liars? How credible should actors be off the stage? Do their thought on war matter more than other citizens of their skill level?

Actors carry no more weight when it comes to their "feelings" about war than any other citizen. And a case can be made that excellent liars opinions should carry less weight.

62 posted on 12/11/2002 6:59:33 AM PST by GOPJ
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Would you like to see Saddam Hussein overthrown?" the reporter asked.

"I don’t know what you mean," Sheen answered.

"Removed from power," said the reporter.

"I don’t even know what that means," Sheen said.

The undaunted reporter pressed on. "Regime change," he explained.
________________________

Brilliant! Sign this guy up for a cabinet position. Geeze, and they claim Bush is dumb!

65 posted on 12/11/2002 7:00:51 AM PST by Charlie OK
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The one skill you must have to be an actor is the ability to lie convincingly. Other than that, the job is lacking in skill.

Ask yourself the following question: What profession can a 10 year old master and receive critical acclaim for on a national stage?

Any 10 year old doctors at the top of their profession? Any 10 year old rocket scientist? Engineers? Journalist? Writers? Teachers? Garbage collectors? Fast food store managers? Waitresses? Nope. All those professions require skill.

Ten year old actors? Yes, when the only skill involved is the ability to lie convincingly is it any wonder these people looked up to Bill Clinton, democrats and other well known liars? How credible should actors be off the stage? Do their thought on war matter more than other citizens of their skill level?

Actors carry no more weight when it comes to their "feelings" about war than any other citizen. And a case can be made that excellent liars opinions should carry less weight.

66 posted on 12/11/2002 7:01:12 AM PST by GOPJ
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This is the exact reason why we conservatives should not support the movies these creeps make and their advertisers etc. It's time to boycott Hollywood and make our affect known!
67 posted on 12/11/2002 7:02:53 AM PST by Lucky2
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One of the actors is Laurence Fishburne (Morpheus).

How many plan on boycotting the next two Matrix movies?

69 posted on 12/11/2002 7:10:03 AM PST by avg_freeper
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Pressed again as to the president’s motives, Sheen attributed them to mere family pride. "I think he’d like to hand his father Saddam Hussein’s head," Sheen said.

Don't these people read or listen to true experts? Why doesn't Sheen pick up a copy of Laurie Mylroie's book The War Against America: Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks: A Study of Revenge?

She makes the case quite convincingly that Saddam is tied to the first WTC bombing as well as other terrorist attacks against us over the past few years.

Sheesh, Sheen, get a clue!

71 posted on 12/11/2002 7:13:04 AM PST by texasbluebell
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And I find it interesting that during WWII, it seemed all of Hollywood jumped on board to do their part in the war effort. Carole Lombard even lost her life while on a war bonds tour.

And yet we have such exemplary characters there today who wouldn't lift a finger to help out the country that has been so good to them.

72 posted on 12/11/2002 7:15:55 AM PST by texasbluebell
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O'Reilly reported that Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford were asked to sign but refused.
75 posted on 12/11/2002 7:23:05 AM PST by nonliberal
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(On "celebrities" opinions being special):

Homer Simpson: "TV said that? Now I don't know who to believe!"
87 posted on 12/11/2002 8:00:35 AM PST by SerpentDove
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Yep, I have to fully agree that Sheen was the perfect candidate for West Wing (although it should have been called Left Wing), given the objective of the show. Who better to portray a Clinton-like character as an effective and patriotic president?

It is really a shame that Socialist celebs, with no knowledge of the real world, and nothing sort of disdain for the population are given such importance on issues they know nothing about!


MARK A SITY
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90 posted on 12/11/2002 8:03:12 AM PST by logic101.net
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"I don’t know if we’ll ever get the whole truth from this administration – about anything," he answered.

Gawd, he can say this with a straight face after eight years of the Clinton administration, which NEVER gave a straight answer about anything, including the time of day!

What a bunch of weenies. I think Martin Sheen is suffering from an identity crisis - he really thinks he is President.
95 posted on 12/11/2002 8:13:08 AM PST by Rummyfan
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MOCK THE FOOLS IN SONG
96 posted on 12/11/2002 8:15:31 AM PST by doug from upland
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Joe Pantolino and Janeane Garafalo were debating O'Reilly last night. Garafalo made the rounds on several shows promoting this leftist crap.So much for the FR rumor that Garafalo is anti-war.
104 posted on 12/11/2002 9:06:34 AM PST by finnman69
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At least some of the same protestors criticized the Clinton administration too.

Some familiar names signed this in 2000.

International Action Center, July, 2000

Are the Children of Iraq Our Enemies?

Ten years ago, on August 6, 1990, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Iraq. Since then, over one million Iraqis, mostly children under five, have died. 10 years is enough! The military sanctions on Iraq should continue, but the economic sanctions not only do not work, they are killing innocent Iraqi children.

We say, the time has come to stop killing innocent Iraqi children.

Lift the economic sanctions on Iraq now!

Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Martin Sheen
Liam Neeson
Rosie O'Donnel
Jeremy Irons
Robert Altman
Bonnie Raitt
Sr. Helen Prejean
Mike Farrell
Joan Baez
Rev. William Sloane Coffin
Ed Asner
Jackson Browne
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton
Natasha Richardson
Pete Seeger
Rev. Daniel Berrigan, S.J.
Sinead Cusack
Casey Kasem
Philip Berrigan
Richard Gere
John Densmore
Arun Gandhi
Maguire Maguire (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Jose Ramos Horta (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Adolfo Perez Esquivel (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Rev. James Lawson
Rabbi Douglas Krantz
Sr. Joan Chittister
Noam Chomsky
Richard Dreyfuss
Howard Zinn
Todd Oldham
David Dellinger
Ramsey Clark
Dennis Halliday
Dr. Helen Caldicott
Dr. Patch Adams
Elise Boulding
Rev. John Dear (FOR Executive Director)
and the Fellowship of Reconciliation, the largest, oldest interfaith peace organization in the US.

Quote from the same web page:
Leslie Stahl: We have heard that a half million children have died (as a result of economic sanctions against Iraq) more children than died in Hiroshima. ...Is the price worth it?

Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it. - CBS 60 Minutes Interview, May, 1996

106 posted on 12/11/2002 9:27:42 AM PST by syriacus
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I just hear on Dennis Prager's program that Tom Hanks and Steven Speilberg refused to sign the list.

...Sounds like these guys, as well as Denzel Washington, Halle Berry and other "A" list people, know which side their bread is buttered on.

Regards, T.
112 posted on 12/11/2002 10:28:06 AM PST by T Lady
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"We reject the doctrine – a reversal of long-held American tradition – that our country, alone, has the right to launch first-strike attacks.

Get a grip you bed swapping morons this will not be a first strike against terrorism, but will be in response and retaliation to the many times we have aready been attacked by the unprovoked wannabe Saddams of this nation, the World and by the real McCoy himself.

Did anyone else notice these members of the "Hollywood Penis & Pussy Posse" did not openly go on record and flat out threaten the Bush Administration that they were not to attack these terrorists under any circumstance, which is exactly what they desire covertly, but left themselves some cowardly wiggle room for more bitter and open attacks (from these Dem rats) when it will be less hazardous to their careers to come completely out of their holes with more vitriolic attacks against America.

This truly is a coalition of the biggest gathering of brainless windbags on record outside of the black caucus, the NAACP and their white handlers: ie;the Tom Daschles, the Al Gores, the Allan Colmes', the Nancy Pelosis', the Hilary Clintons and all the rest too numerous to name(who are a mixture of extreme left wing Dem rats and weeny moderate Republicans, oh, they know who they are as do all)and who carry the stench of denial clutched to their bosoms because their inner most thoughts will not survive the light of the truth.

116 posted on 12/11/2002 10:36:25 AM PST by VOYAGER
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"My disagreement with the peace-at-any-price men, the ultrapacifists, is not in the least because they favor peace. I object to them, first, because they have proved themselves futile and impotent in working for peace, and
second, because they commit what is not merely the capital error but the crime against morality of failing to uphold righteousness as the all-important end toward which we should strive ...

I have as little sympathy for them as they have for the men who deify mere brutal force, who insist that power justifies wrongdoing, and who declare that there is no such thing as international morality. But the ultra-pacifists really play
into the hands of these men. To condemn equally might which backs right and might which overthrows right is to render positive service to wrong-doers...

To denounce the nation that wages war in self-defense, or from a generous desire to relieve the oppressed, in the same terms in which we denounce war waged in a spirit of greed or wanton folly stands on a par with denouncing equally a murderer and the policeman who, at peril of his life and by force of arms, arrests the murderer. In each case the
denunciation denotes not loftiness of soul but weakness both of mind and morals."

~Theodore Roosevelt
117 posted on 12/11/2002 10:50:15 AM PST by FreedomAvatar
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This is just the same gaggle of "usual suspects."
I would have liked to have asked Sheen
if his distrust of the present administration
bore any resemblance to the distrust of "real America" for Bill Clinton.
134 posted on 12/11/2002 2:08:33 PM PST by Illbay
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Weren't some of these whack-offs among the opinionated "Hollyweird Generals" who lambasted Bush-41 because he "failed to get Hussein" in Desert Storm. Now they're upset because Bush-43 is determined to do it???
143 posted on 12/11/2002 5:43:24 PM PST by Wondervixen
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