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Study: Marijuana Does Not Lead to Hard Drugs
Reuters ^ | Dec. 2, 2002 | unknown

Posted on 12/02/2002 2:42:58 PM PST by Sparta

— WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Countering a basic principle of American anti-drug policies, an independent U.S. study concluded on Monday that marijuana use does not lead teenagers to experiment with hard drugs like heroin or cocaine.

The study by the private, nonprofit RAND Drug Policy Research Center rebutted the theory that marijuana acts as a so-called gateway drug to more harmful narcotics, a key argument against legalizing pot in the United States.

The researchers did not advocate easing restrictions in marijuana, but questioned the focus on this substance in drug control efforts.

Using data from the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse between 1982 and 1994, the study concluded teenagers who took hard drugs were predisposed to do so whether they tried marijuana first or not.

"Kids get their first opportunity to use marijuana years before they get their first exposure to hard drugs," said Andrew Morral, lead author of the RAND study.

"Marijuana is not a gateway drug. It's just the first thing kids often come across."

Morral said 50 percent of U.S. teenagers had access to marijuana by the age of 16, while the majority had no exposure to cocaine, heroin or hallucinogens until they were 20.

The study, published in the British journal Addiction, does not advocate legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana, which has been linked to side-effects including short-term memory loss.

But given limited resources, Morral said the U.S. government should reconsider the prominence of marijuana in its much-publicized "war on drugs."

"To a certain extent we are diverting resources away from hard drug problems," he said. "Spending money on marijuana control may not be having downstream consequences on the use of hard drugs."

Researchers say predisposition to drug use has been linked to genetic factors and one's environment, including family dynamics and the availability of drugs in the neighborhood.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brownshirts; dudewheresmybong; dumembers; ganja; gatewaydrug; jackboots; jbtsonparade; lpvoters; maryjane; stoners; wackyweed; weedisnotnormal; wodlist
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To: tacticalogic
That may be. As I mentioned earlier, I cannot contribute much to the discussion of that issue.
Just one last question: does your repositioning of resources include legalization of MJ?
221 posted on 12/04/2002 2:25:36 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: JimRed
Germans drank a lot of alcohol, and came damn close to ruling the world. Even used it in the rocket engines.
222 posted on 12/04/2002 2:34:14 PM PST by Renegade
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To: TopQuark
Just one last question: does your repositioning of resources include legalization of MJ?

At least decriminalization, and possibly legalization with regulation. As you noted earlier, people are prone to their vices, and people's reaction to drugs varies. I think one of the biggest problems I have with out current situation is that we have legalized alcohol, but criminalized marijuana, and objectively alcohol is potentially much more destructive, particularly for the people who seem to have that genetic pre-disposition to alcoholism.

The other problem I have with it is that it puts us into the position of essentially making it a function of law enforcement to try and eradicate a weed. By their own figures, last year Missouri law enforcement found and destroyed nearly 70 million marijuana plants. Of that total less than 11 thousand were described as "cultivated marijuana". And they'll do it again next year, and probably every year for the forseeable future.

223 posted on 12/04/2002 2:37:04 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: TopQuark
Well, that's why you never hear such nonsense from engineers.

Please. I make my living fixing engineers mistakes. My experience is that for every good engineer you deal with, you get several marginally competent yet overly arrogent specimens. Your repeated references to the profession leads me to conclude that you are an engineer, and I conclude that you believe yourself to be the one of the sample. Then again, so do all of the several.

224 posted on 12/04/2002 6:55:35 PM PST by MileHi
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To: thegreatbeast
Marijuana, or anything substance that alters your consciousness or perception of reality, is bad for people. Whether or not their is a cost to be extracted is a personal experience but society has only one choice in its view of such things and that is to be against them catagorically. We can't afford to give out "passes" to reality.

So you favor alcohol prohibition then?

225 posted on 12/04/2002 7:19:49 PM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
Please. I make my living fixing engineers mistakes. There must be a lot of money in that.

My experience is that for every good engineer you deal with, you get several marginally competent yet overly arrogent specimens. Your repeated references to the profession

Did these reference speak in terms of good and bad, or were they more specific?

leads me to conclude that you are an engineer, and I conclude that you believe yourself to be the one of the sample. Then again, so do all of the several.

Attributions of effects to causes should not be made so lightly. The little I have said on this thread cannot even put you in the vicinity of what I am professionally. If we met in person and I told you, you would smile at your own hypothesis.

As for the original remark, it was specific, and you have read something else into it altogether.

226 posted on 12/04/2002 7:25:31 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: robertpaulsen
. In prison, I'll learn that the real money can be found in banks, and I'll become a bank robber when I get out.

Good chance of that, hence the high rate of recidivism.

Now, if it were legal to rob 7-11's, I wouldn't be arrested and exposed to these criminals. Voila!

Cute sarcasm, but stealing and violent robbery violate others. Smoking a joint doesn't. That is the red herring reply of a WoD champion who can't refute a point. A logical leap off a cliff.

227 posted on 12/04/2002 7:45:41 PM PST by MileHi
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To: TopQuark
. If we met in person and I told you, you would smile at your own hypothesis.

Have I given you too much or too little credit? I see in your last several posts that you seem to be losing ground.

I am curious. You said It is my understanding that we cannot be fighting a war on things, whether they be drugs or guns, but on behaviors. In this case, it is drug abuse.

So would you say smoking a joint while watching football on Sunday at home is "abuse"? Should such a person be in jail? How about an alcohoic living on a grate downtown. Is that substance abuse? Should he be in jail?

Current legal status notwithstanding, what is the moral distinction between alcohol and MJ use and abuse?

BTW, There must be a lot of money in that.

Not bad for a dumb redneck.

228 posted on 12/04/2002 8:18:15 PM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
I make my living fixing engineers mistakes

Draftsman?

229 posted on 12/04/2002 8:20:39 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
LOL. No, they as-built my fixes.
230 posted on 12/04/2002 8:27:32 PM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
Ya know, it wouldn't surprise me if we have met at some petro-chem job site sometime. Are you a piper?
231 posted on 12/04/2002 8:30:51 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: MileHi
Ya know, it wouldn't surprise me if we have met at some petro-chem job site sometime. Are you a piper (that is not a pun)?
232 posted on 12/04/2002 8:31:26 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
No, I work on commercial mechanical systems. I was a toolbag guy for years but I design control software and commission systems. The last few years I have worked on new/remodel system design with mechanical consultants (engineers) that work for us.

All of my work has been in the Denver metro (you know, MileHi) area.

I've done some pipe fitting, I like my laptop a lot better. {:0)

233 posted on 12/04/2002 8:41:10 PM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
You really did sound like a "piper" which in the Petro-Chem construction industry is a Piping designer for the plants, not a pipe fitter. They have the same low opinion of engineers. LOL
234 posted on 12/04/2002 8:45:44 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: MileHi
I worked as a contract electrical designer for 5 years after I got my EE. I couldn't take the pay cut to be an engineer.
235 posted on 12/04/2002 8:48:13 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
which in the Petro-Chem construction industry is a Piping designer for the plants, not a pipe fitter.

Guess I proved I'm not one of them.

Really the mechanical engineer on our staff is a great guy and I have learned plenty from him. He gave me my jaded opinion of engineers, he is the one out of several. And he treats me as a collegue. Not bad for a publik skool guy. But, hey, I have been at this for 25 years and I do catch engineers frquently.

236 posted on 12/04/2002 8:57:04 PM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
It all depends on how much on hands experience an engineer has. The more tool time they have the more competent they are and the more common sense they have acquired.
237 posted on 12/04/2002 9:00:09 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The more tool time they have the more competent they are and the more common sense they have acquired.

I agree. And you can tell who does by their attitude to toolbag guys.

I guess my point is that whatever line of work, it seems to me if you line up 10 guys you may get one or two really prfessional ones. The rest are there for the paycheck. That is really sobering when you are looking for a new doctor...

238 posted on 12/04/2002 9:12:03 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Texasforever
Hey!

Catch me up.

I've been hanging out over at the RLC Liberty Caucus trying to score an dime bag.
239 posted on 12/04/2002 9:14:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I've been hanging out over at the RLC Liberty Caucus trying to score an dime bag.

Man those guys will rip you off. Their stuff has been stepped on so many times it is worthless.

240 posted on 12/04/2002 9:17:27 PM PST by Texasforever
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