[Texasforever]

You really did sound like a "piper" which in the Petro-Chem construction industry is a Piping designer for the plants, not a pipe fitter. They have the same low opinion of engineers. LOL

[MileHi]

which in the Petro-Chem construction industry is a Piping designer for the plants, not a pipe fitter.

Guess I proved I'm not one of them.

Really the mechanical engineer on our staff is a great guy and I have learned plenty from him. He gave me my jaded opinion of engineers, he is the one out of several. And he treats me as a collegue. Not bad for a publik skool guy. But, hey, I have been at this for 25 years and I do catch engineers frquently.