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I voted for WTC Concept #2
1 posted on 12/01/2002 7:17:01 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
WTC Concept #3 was just as high as WTC Concept #2, but WTC Concept #3 had a dome on top, which I felt was too reminiscient of a Muslim mosque.

So, that's why I voted for WTC Concept #2.

2 posted on 12/01/2002 7:21:32 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Dig an 1100-foot hole in the ground and build them upside down.

If they are built, don't forget the tastefully-camouflaged anti-aircraft batteries, or the giant "KICK ME" signs.

And who will insure them? At what rate?

Who will lease space in them?

Who will voluntarily work in say, the 100th floor?

Will all window offices have parachutes?

They will be seen as a challenge, and the challenge will be accepted. Only next time, the terrorists will use a small nuke to bring them down.

FIRST kill all the terrorists; THEN start designing the replacements.

--Boris

3 posted on 12/01/2002 7:33:18 AM PST by boris
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To: Momaw Nadon
I lean to Two too.
4 posted on 12/01/2002 7:34:13 AM PST by IronJack
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I wish www.wtc2002.com had included this as design Concept #4


7 posted on 12/01/2002 7:56:13 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Sorry. I like neither design. (Too massive)

Just put it back, exactly as it was.

8 posted on 12/01/2002 8:02:34 AM PST by Utopia
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10 posted on 12/01/2002 8:08:00 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Momaw Nadon
Anything Less Is Suicide
Why We Must Build Bigger and Better on the World Trade Center Site

By Sherri R. Tracinski

As both an architect and architectural historian—that is, as someone who cares about buildings nearly as much as I care about my friends and family—I felt like I lost an old friend on September 11 when the towers of the World Trade Center crumbled to the ground. While the nation mourned the thousands of people who died that day, I also mourned for the two buildings that died that day.

I could not write about rebuilding the towers until the site was completely cleared; one would never discuss settling the estate until after the funeral. But now that the Port Authority has announced its diminutive plans for the WTC site—none of the proposals calls for a tower at anything near the original height of the twin towers—I must shout to every American: "Don't do it, it doesn't have to end this way." It is the same cry you would shout to stop a suicide.

Anything less than a new tower at the same height—or higher—is demonstrating to those who hate us that we intend to cut back, roll over, and give up. It is not the quick, violent suicide of putting a gun to your head, but the slow suicide of a man who has given up trying to live.

Throughout history, many great buildings have been damaged and destroyed in war. What a society does to rebuild afterward is an omen for its future survival.

Twenty-five hundred years ago, a marauding Persian army sacked the Greek city of Athens and burned the Parthenon, the city's most important temple. What did the ancient Athenians do? They didn't decide they should make a smaller temple so that it would be less of a target in the future. They didn't decide that they were guilty of offending the enemy with their wealth and success. They didn't leave a barren plateau to commemorate the men who died fighting the Persians. Instead, after they roundly defeated the enemy, they rebuilt bigger and better. The old Parthenon had been built of limestone. The new Parthenon was built of the finest material the Athenians could find—white marble—and decorated with inspiring sculptures of heroes. It was the greatest Greek temple ever built and marked the beginning of the Athenian Golden Age.

Or consider America's history. During the war of 1812, when the British burned the Presidential Mansion, what did we do? We rebuilt the mansion, repainted the charred exterior, and called it the White House.

In the 1850s, when a fire burned the Capitol building, plans were made to rebuild it, but soon the country was split apart by the Civil War. Yet it was during the war, with limited funds and limited workers, that the Capitol was rebuilt and enlarged using the latest modern materials. During a conflict that threatened to rip the nation in two, the rebuilding of the Capitol demonstrated Lincoln's confidence that we would succeed in preserving the Union.

Today, however, America's reaction is increasingly one of passivity and resignation. We flounder in a half-hearted war because we're afraid we might suffer casualties—or worse, we're afraid we might inflict them on the enemy. We plead with our allies and our enemies for permission to invade Iraq. And when the World Trade Center site is cleared, we propose a half-hearted building campaign. We accept a slow suicide.

Yes, the new World Trade Center site should include a memorial to the American civilians who were killed in this war. The 16-acre site has plenty of room to accommodate such a memorial. But the demands to make the whole site into a giant mausoleum are perverse.

Some say that the WTC site is sacred ground. But in my view, all of Manhattan is sacred ground—not because people died there, but because its bridges and skyscrapers are monuments to human life. They are monuments to the human aspiration to build and to create. This is what was attacked on September 11: our wealth, our success, the global reach of our commerce and culture. The best way to commemorate those achievements is through a new skyscraper, bigger, better, and more beautiful than the ones we have lost.

This would be our declaration that we, the American people, have chosen to keep building—that we have chosen, not to give up, but to go on to even greater heights.

Anything less would be suicide.

Sherri R. Tracinski, an architect and architectural historian based in Virginia, is a writer for the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif. The Institute promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.

11 posted on 12/01/2002 8:15:01 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: Momaw Nadon
These are all truly awful. Let me use my professional architectural background to trash these with just a sampling of descriptions that come to mind. Gargantuan, massive, inhuman, scaleless, ugly, graceless, impractical, and downright bad design for far too many reasons to list.

Massive poorly scaled cylindrical towers like this are highly unattractive and they will cast huge huge shadows. The site will be completely overwhelmed. The atrium at the bottom will be little more than a bad leftover atrium space, hardly a pleasant public space nor fitting to the site. Most of the time it will be in shadow. 1/4 of each external tower faces into another tower creating unlit unpleasant views.The center tower has virtually zero views and would seem to me to be unrentable.

The base of the building is completely isolated from the neighborhood evoking the fatal deslolate flaws of the origninal WTC complex.

NYC is a city famous for its skyline and the decorative crowns that top off its most beautful buildings. The tops of thes buildings are afterthoughts lacking finesse nor purpose.They offer nothing to the city.

Economically this is an abortion. Anyone with even the remotest sense of mixed use devolopment understands that you stack commercial space at the base, hotel functions above that, and residential to crown it. That formula is the most effective usage for massive developments, In this case a memorial at the crown would seem appropriate as well.

This guy should leave the designing to the pros before he hurts himself. The new age music does not help. Very shortly a group of proposals from some of the worlds best architects is to be released.
15 posted on 12/01/2002 8:44:59 AM PST by finnman69
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To: Momaw Nadon
Can someone please post the different design concepts. The site link is running flash and my computer don't. Can get it to open. Much appreciated.
20 posted on 12/01/2002 8:58:43 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: Momaw Nadon
Neither!!! Ugly!! They both look like something that rose out of the earth in a 'sci-fi' movie.

Nothing can replace the clean, sharp towers we had, except the same thing. If the top floors would have difficulty being rented, then make those top floors a simple facade --- but keep the design we know/knew, loved and prayed for.

30 posted on 12/01/2002 7:36:55 PM PST by Exit148
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To: Momaw Nadon
How come all concepts have a top that either looks like a Pyramid or a Mosque? Did those people die to have a building be rebuilt as a salute the sand people and their moon god?
32 posted on 12/01/2002 8:34:22 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Momaw Nadon
Stupid designs that look like green sticks of dynamite. Not the most appropriate appearance.
37 posted on 12/01/2002 8:44:10 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Momaw Nadon
Sorry, I'm a little late with this comment, but from what I've seen on the causes of the twin tower collapses, there were firewall failures in the inner stairwell/utilities structures that allowed jet fuel to penetrate to lower floors and the floor beams that held the walls together mechanically failed at the elevated temperatures.

I would guess that it would be a lot cheaper to upgrade the designs on these features and on other things that we have learned and otherwise rebuild the exact same towers again. There would be even less guarantee that a different (untested) design would do any better. I would also guess that it could be rebuilt in half the time.

There would also be another statement made about our resolve that could not be made by a new design.
44 posted on 01/14/2003 7:14:08 PM PST by NJJ
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