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"Ethnic Intimidation Law" Hate Crimes Bill Passes Pa. House Goes to Governor for Signature or Veto
Focus on the Family ^ | PA Family Institute

Posted on 11/29/2002 10:37:34 AM PST by oneday

Hate Crimes Bill Passes Pa. House Goes to Governor for Signature or Veto

After a 90-minute debate, HB 1493, which adds “sexual orientation,” “gender” and “gender” identity to Pennsylvania’s “ethnic intimidation” statute, passed the House by a vote of 118-79. Having already passed the State Senate last year, the measure now goes to Governor Mark Schweiker. He can either sign it, making it law in Pennsylvania, or veto it, which will kill the legislation.

Please Call Governor Mark Schweiker at (717) 787-2500 or (800) 932-0784, and urge him to veto House Bill 1493, the “Hate Crimes Amendment."

Reasons Why HB 1493 Should Be Vetoed:

Þ Although well intentioned, "hate-crime" laws are seriously flawed. They pave the way for unequal treatment under the law as well as the un-American concept of "thought crime," in which someone's actions are "more" illegal based on their thoughts or beliefs.

Þ A grandmother walking down the street should have at least as much protection under the law as a homosexual who is leaving a "gay" bar. But under this "hate crimes" laws that include "sexual orientation," the same crime would be punished with greater penalties if the victim were a homosexual.

Þ There is no evidence that victims of "hate crimes" are receiving any less attention than victims of other crimes. To suggest otherwise insults the men and women of the nation's law enforcement community.

We deplore any act of violence against innocent victims (including homosexuals), but we strongly oppose as unjust and dangerous HB 1493.

Such laws:

Þ Violate the concept of equal protection under the law by designating special classes of victims, who get a higher level of government protection than others victimized by similar crimes.

Þ Politicize criminal law, leading to pressure on police and prosecutors to devote more of their limited resources to some cases, at the expense of other crime victims' cases.

Þ Have a chilling effect on free speech by making unpopular ideas a basis for harsher treatment in criminal proceedings. Over half of the so-called "hate crimes" in the last U.S. Justice Department report were categorized as "intimidation" or "simple assault," which do not necessarily involve anything more than words.

Þ Confuse law enforcers, because the definition of what constitutes a "hate crime" is clear in some instances but unclear in others. This burdens prosecutors and opens up endless opportunities for defense attorneys to invoke technicalities.

Þ Are not necessary. There is no evidence to substantiate the claim that "hate crime" victims are receiving less justice than other crime victims.


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Please be on your best behavior when calling (717) 787-2500 or (800) 932-0784. The Gov.'s office appears to be closed today (how convenient); a PA state trooper answers and advises the office should be open 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. on Monday. Still, let him know that you oppose this legislation and that the Gov. should veto it -- and then call back Monday!
1 posted on 11/29/2002 10:37:34 AM PST by oneday
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To: oneday
Is pedophilia a "sexual orientation"? Bestiality?...Necrophilia?

--Boris

2 posted on 11/29/2002 10:44:07 AM PST by boris
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To: oneday
OK, we need to find the gov.'s FAX and print the article below and send it along with our letter:
PA???is this where you are heading??? BEWARE!!!!

Punishment includes
Islam indoctrination
Canadian to resume hate-crimes sentence under Muslim direction



Posted: October 31, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

An Ontario man convicted of promoting hatred against Muslims says his community-service sentence has included indoctrination into Islam.

After losing an appeal to Canada's Supreme Court on Oct. 17, Mark Harding must resume his sentence of two years probation and 340 hours of community service under the direction of Mohammad Ashraf, general secretary of the Islamic Society of North America in Mississauga, Ont.

Harding, 47, said he had one session under Ashraf in 1998 before an appeal process stayed the sentence.

Ashraf, according to Harding, said that instead of licking stamps and stuffing envelopes, "it would be better if you learned about Islam."

The cleric made it clear, Harding recalled in an interview with WorldNetDaily, that during the sessions nothing negative could be said about Islam or its prophet, Muhammad.

"He said he was my supervisor, and if I didn't follow what he said, he would send me back to jail," recounted Harding, who had been prevented from speaking publicly about his case under a gag order.

Harding was convicted in 1998 on federal hate-crimes charges stemming from a June 1997 incident in which he distributed pamphlets outside a public high school, Weston Collegiate Institute in Toronto. Harding – who said that until that point he spent most of his time evangelizing Muslims – was protesting the school's policy of setting aside a room for Muslim students to pray during school hours.

In one of his pamphlets, Harding listed atrocities committed by Muslims in foreign lands to back his assertion that Canadians should be wary of local Muslims.

The pamphlet said: "The Muslims who commit these crimes are no different than the Muslim believers living here in Toronto. Their beliefs are based on the Quran. They sound peaceful, but underneath their false sheep's clothing are raging wolves seeking whom they may devour. And Toronto is definitely on their hit list."

"The point I was trying to make is you shouldn't have a violent religion like Islam allowed in a school when Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism is not allowed," he told WND.

Harding, an evangelical Protestant, insists he has love rather than hatred toward Muslims and wants to see them go to heaven.

A lawyer for Harding, Jasmine Akbaralli, says she is trying to obtain permission for her client to serve out his sentence in an Islamic community closer to his current home in Chesley, Ont., north of Toronto and about a three-hour drive from the Islamic Society of North America.

The plea is based on humanitarian grounds, she said, due to her client's poor health.

Harding said he has suffered four heart attacks since 1997, and he and his wife and two children are penniless because his health has prevented him from maintaining his trade as a cabinetmaker.

Akbaralli said she would not comment on Harding's previous experience with Ashraf, noting that she was not representing him at the time. Calls to Ashraf and others at the Islamic Society of North America on Tuesday and Wednesday were not returned.

Understanding Islam

During his 1998 session with Ashraf, Harding was told to read a book called Towards Understanding Islam, by Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi.

On page 12 of the book, Harding noted, it gives a description of a "kafir," or infidel, a person who does not follow Islam.

"Such a man ... will spread confusion and disorder on the earth," the book says. "He will without the least compunction, shed blood, violate other men's rights, be cruel to them, and create disorder and destruction in the world. His perverted thoughts and ambitions, his blurred vision and disturbed scale of values, and his evil-spelling activities would make life bitter for him and for all around him."

"It was obvious that he intended to make sure I understood that I was a kafir," Harding said of Ashraf.

Harding's 1998 conviction on three counts of willfully promoting hatred was commended by Canadian Muslims.

"The verdict sends a message to Christians, Muslims and Jews that personal views of that nature can't be allowed in a public forum," said Shahina Siddiqui, coordinator of community relations and social services for the Manitoba Islamic Association, in a report by the Canadian evangelical publication Christian Week. "There's a fine line between freedom of expression and hatred. Harding crossed that line."

Mohamed Elmasry, president of the Canadian Islamic Congress, said after the verdict that "spreading hate is against Canadian values and against Canadian law, and it doesn't matter the group that is victimized."

The verdict was not a suppression of free speech, Elmasry insisted, according to Alberta Report magazine, arguing that he would not consider scholarly books in the library that criticize Islam to be hate literature. Harding "is just trying to stereotype and put out hate literature, and he was found guilty by the courts," he said.

Harding asserted at the time that he meant to criticize only Islamic terrorists, not all Muslims. But he added that faithful Muslims will always engage in jihad, or holy war, against non-Muslims because it is required by Islamic teachings.

Many Muslim scholars in North America argue that jihad essentially means "struggle" and is not necessarily violent.

But Harding said that after his case became public, he no longer felt safe, due to threats from Muslims. When he entered court for the first time for his trial, he required police protection as a large crowd of Muslims gathered, with some chanting, "Infidels, you will burn in hell."

Harding said he received many death threats among more than 3,000 hate-filled calls that came to his answering service in 1997. Similar calls were received by police and the Ontario attorney general, he said.

"I had a call from someone who said they were from (Louis) Farrakhan's (Nation of Islam) group, and they were going to break my legs," he said. "Another caller said he would rip out my testicles."

The Islamic Society of North America in Canada, where Harding is required to fulfill his community service, describes itself as a "broad-based unity of Muslims and Islamic organizations committed to the mission and movement of Islam: nurturing a way of life in the light of the guidance from the Quran and Sunnah for establishing a vibrant presence of Muslims in Canada."

The organization shares facilities with the Canadian Council on Islamic Relations, an affiliate of the controversial Council on Islamic-American Relations, or CAIR, in Washington, D.C.

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a Muslim country.

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told the Star Tribune. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."

Hate crimes

Judge Sidney B. Linden's 1998 ruling against Harding was based on Canada's genocide and hate-crimes law. The judge determined he was guilty of "false allegations about the adherents of Islam calculated to arouse fear and hatred of them in all non-Muslim people."

The law bars a public statement that "willfully promotes hatred" against groups "distinguished by color, race, religion or ethnic origin." The code has an article that excuses statements expressed in "good faith," including religious expression. But the trial judge found that Harding had either "tried to incite hatred or was willfully blind to it," according to lawyer Akbaralli.

Canadian Christian groups are fighting a bill reinstated this month by a homosexual parliament member that would add "sexual orientation" as a protected category in the hate-crimes statutes. Known previously as bill C-415, it is now registered as C-250.

Evangelicals have supported Harding in principle, though many have signaled their opposition to his aggressive tactics or have expressed reservations.

Harding said he's received support from Christians who immigrated to Canada from Muslim countries, where minority religions experience discrimination and persecution.

"I have a lot of Pakistani and Egyptian friends helping me through this because they understand what Islam is all about," he said. "When they heard about me in the news, they called to offer their support."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29483
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1097/9710047.html
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3 posted on 11/29/2002 10:48:08 AM PST by ZAKJAN
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To: ZAKJAN
Many Muslim scholars in North America argue that jihad essentially means "struggle" and is not necessarily violent.

That is true. For example disinformation is not violent.

4 posted on 11/29/2002 10:53:50 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: oneday
bttt
5 posted on 11/29/2002 10:58:30 AM PST by keri
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To: boris
Given time and the natural man (somethings the libs know is on their side), yes.
6 posted on 11/29/2002 11:08:11 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: oneday
It seems so strange one very small group with an un-natural sex fetish would become elites within a society. Next comes lowering the age of boy consent to 10. NAMBLA is waiting for their turn.
This bill is pure whine and bitch type pc. If the Gov. signs this bill, he'll never win an election again. The straights will make sure of it.
7 posted on 11/29/2002 11:11:50 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: boris
Is pedophilia a "sexual orientation"? Bestiality?...Necrophilia?

Yes.

8 posted on 11/29/2002 11:12:54 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
The Gov. is a lame duck. Please call (717) 787-2500 or (800) 932-0784 to let him know you oppose this legislation!
9 posted on 11/29/2002 11:23:39 AM PST by oneday
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Given time and the natural man (somethings the libs know is on their side), yes."

Pardon my ignorance but what is the meaning of "the natural man"? I sense you are using it in a special sense.

There is nothing "natural" about perversions.

If you are saying all men are brutes, little more than hormone-driven apes, well that is an interesting point of view.

--Boris

10 posted on 11/29/2002 11:33:48 AM PST by boris
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To: boris
Biblical literacy is not a strength in this nation any longer. The term 'natural man' is generic to humankind, and refers to the unregenerate....for whom perversion is actually not that foreign.
12 posted on 11/29/2002 11:57:01 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: oneday
Any laws the U.N want it get
13 posted on 11/29/2002 12:03:21 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: oneday
The sheep and the goats are being separated. The sheep will remain faithful. Too bad for the goats. It won't be pretty.
14 posted on 11/29/2002 12:30:53 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: goodcarp
And, maybe, the various kinds of, um, unusual sex types generally cooperate politically since they recognize that they may have different lusts, but common needs...

A large-but-unorganized group may be controlled by a small-but-tightly-organized group. Most people are not all that interested in political power. They're more interested in making money, getting a date, their kids Little League games.

People who have 90% of their waking hours focused on power and political games have an advantage here

15 posted on 11/29/2002 12:58:25 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: oneday
Most people if you queried them would respond that they are appalled that any crime was motivated or driven by hate. Also most people aren't really concerned with what happens politically at all unless they perceive some act may have direct consequences to themselves. That's how harebrained ideas such as this legislation become laws--it's essentially accomplished by stealth. If you put such a resolution forward and it had to be confirmed by the populace it would never be approved, ever. What makes it even doubly difficult in opposing such crap, is how do you use not-vetoing a "hate-crimes" provision as a political club. It puts any politician who tries to use it as an issue in bad light e.g. "Do you mean that you're in favor of hate crimes sir?" If you don't believe that see how the opposite case was used against Dubya in the presidential race.

The Governor in this case unless he hasn't any principled objection to this legislation will sign it. Because, in signing it, it carries no significant negative political consequences. But of course, that's how all these stupid laws get passed in the first place.

16 posted on 11/29/2002 1:18:19 PM PST by Coeur de Lion
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To: oneday
Governor's email address:

governor@state.pa.us
17 posted on 11/29/2002 1:23:14 PM PST by unojook
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To: oneday
Whatta hot load of steaming shi'ite!
18 posted on 11/29/2002 1:50:55 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: unojook
email on the way
19 posted on 11/29/2002 3:27:38 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: boris
Is pedophilia a "sexual orientation"? Bestiality?...Necrophilia?

Yes they are, but they are still criminal offenses if acted upon, at least for now.

To say that something is a "sexual orientation" does not legitimize it. As psychological (as opposed to political) terminology it goes way back. It covers everything from a preference for redheads, to the innocuously kinky such as a paraphilia for silk stockings, to homosexuality, to those you mentioned, to a preference for rape.

The term "sexual orientation" is properly morally neutral, though specific instances are not.

In PC terminology apparently it legitimizes.

20 posted on 11/29/2002 4:21:16 PM PST by Salman
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