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San Francisco tries stern new tack with legions of Homeless - Voters OK measure to slash monthly aid
Boston Globe ^ | November 29, 2002 | By Garance Burke

Posted on 11/29/2002 3:15:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO - In a city that prides itself on progressive social policies, a surprising crackdown against the homeless is underway.

A drive to slash monthly welfare checks to homeless recipients from an average $375 to just $59 has been approved by voters, the politician who led the drive is hoping to ride its success into higher office, and the city's restaurant and hotel industries are anticipating a boost to business.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 11/29/2002 3:15:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What do the Pelosiati think about this?
2 posted on 11/29/2002 3:19:29 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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Dupe
3 posted on 11/29/2002 3:19:40 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
''You gotta give a man positive thoughts and tell him he can come out of this. Otherwise, ain't no one gonna get themselves outta this mess.''

You gotta kick him in the ass and quit coddling him. If you don't you're an enabler!
4 posted on 11/29/2002 3:26:07 AM PST by liberateUS
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
James Daly, a disabled Vietnam veteran who sleeps at South Beach, decided he's not sticking around to see what happens.

I wonder if he really is a disabled Vietnam vet.

Stolen Valor

5 posted on 11/29/2002 3:39:02 AM PST by csvset
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Heartless democratics will do it every time. Pick a man up, tell him they will help him then pull the rug. The democrats will try to pin this on the republicans some way.
6 posted on 11/29/2002 3:46:43 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There's no reason an able-bodied man, homeless or not, should expect one nickel from the public purse. Government money should go to old people, disabled people, widows & orphans, and mothers of small children. (And no, I don't consider drug or alchohol abuse a disability.)

-ccm

7 posted on 11/29/2002 3:57:14 AM PST by ccmay
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Good. I'm glad to see it. These people are agressive and violent and San Francisco is a haven for them.

A couple of years ago, a friend of mine and I were lunching at a sidewalk cafe when one of those fiends attacked her. As it turns out, he was a known quantity, and we saw him the next day sleeping on a bench on Union Square.

San Francisco has been out of control for too long. Its high time this they did something about it.
8 posted on 11/29/2002 3:58:47 AM PST by BlueCat
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''It's going to be crazy for people who aren't thinking ahead about getting a job,''

Living on the street for free, and suddenly, WITHOUT WARNING, being expected to "think ahead about finding a job".

Now maybe it is because I have a full time career, run a business, and consult for three other companies, so I must be tired and cranky and noncompassionate.

Put a bounty on them, for all I care. I have been to San Francisco and seen it myself, and congratulate all these "Nam Vets" (Sure!) at managing to turn a nice city into Calcutta.

9 posted on 11/29/2002 4:26:21 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
James Daly, a disabled Vietnam veteran who sleeps at South Beach, decided he's not sticking around to see what happens.

Uh-huh. The media really needs to stop taking deranged bums' claims about their military service at face value.

10 posted on 11/29/2002 4:40:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“If they can say, ‘Have you got any spare change?’ they can say, ‘Welcome to McDonalds. Can I help you?’”
Charles Barkely, quoting someone else. The Oprah Winfrey Show. KABC, 6:44 p.m., November 7, 2002.

11 posted on 11/29/2002 5:01:44 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“If they can say, ‘Have you got any spare change?’ they can say, ‘Welcome to McDonalds. Can I help you?’”
Charles Barkely, quoting someone else. The Oprah Winfrey Show. KABC, 6:44 p.m., November 7, 2002.

12 posted on 11/29/2002 5:03:11 AM PST by Savage Beast
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Bump!
13 posted on 11/29/2002 5:30:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Liberals don't understand supply and demand for obvious reasons, I cannot fathom why they don't see that their enabling policies and programs end up with dire consequences for everyone, including those they want to help.

City officials have already started to puzzle out how to redirect the estimated $13 million saved from cutting the cash grants to rent out hotel rooms and expand free food programs

They are only redirecting the consequences with a different form of coddling. The mental hospitals might be the best place to send some of the vagrants, along with some of the money.

14 posted on 11/29/2002 5:41:33 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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***A drive to slash monthly welfare checks to homeless recipients from an average $375……..Smith, who works 32 hours a month for the city in exchange for her checks…….***

Bump!

16 posted on 11/29/2002 5:46:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In the 1980s, cuts to California's mental hospitals led to a rise in the city's street population.

Revisionist history alert:
The mental hospitals were depopulated in 1967 by the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act. In its own words, that law was meant "To end the inappropriate, indefinite, and involuntary commitment of mentally disordered persons, developmentally disabled persons and persons impaired by chronic alcoholism.."

It had nothing to do with "cuts." It was another liberal do-good scheme to "free" people who were in many cases delusional and totally incapable of surviving on their own. The law has turned many downtown environments into giant, outdoor, insane asylums.

17 posted on 11/29/2002 5:57:53 AM PST by Nick Danger
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''We'll have over $110 million dollars to work with, and I think there's a smart way to leverage those dollars for the 2,800 people who will be affected by this,'' said Trent Rohrer, director of the Department of Human Services.

$110 Million divided by 2,800 = $40,000 a piece. The average recipient was recieving $375 per month....$4,500 a total of $12.6 million. That means $97.4 Million was being used to administer the hand out!Talk about Poverty Pimps.

18 posted on 11/29/2002 6:48:35 AM PST by ijcr
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''No grown person can live on $59 per month,'' said Daly, who plans to move home to Arkansas in a few months.

Another phoney vet. If he's a disabled VN veteran,he is already getting a lot more money than that from the VA, and most likely doesn't even quailfy for the money from the city.

19 posted on 11/29/2002 7:14:40 AM PST by sneakypete
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That means $97.4 Million was being used to administer the hand out!Talk about Poverty Pimps.

And their friends and political cronies are the ones getting paid to administer these programs. Why else do you think they love them so much?

20 posted on 11/29/2002 7:18:02 AM PST by sneakypete
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