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In Toronto, Christmas Is Out, 'Holiday Tree' Is In
Yahoo News ^ | 11/25/02

Posted on 11/27/2002 7:26:24 AM PST by marshmallow

TORONTO (Reuters) - Christmas is becoming an endangered word in parts of Canada in a rash of politically correct behavior -- such as renaming a Christmas tree a "holiday tree" -- that even non-Christians dismiss as silly.

Toronto city officials began the flap last week when they called the 50-foot (15.2 meter) tree set up outside City Hall a "holiday tree." That sparked much derision and prompted the city's mayor to set the record straight.

"Our special events staff went too far with their political correctness when they called it a holiday tree," said Mayor Mel Lastman. "They were trying to be inclusive and their hearts were in the right place, but you can't be politically correct all the time."

The mayor plans to introduce a motion in city council this week that will officially put the word Christmas in front of the word tree in all future city documents.

The name change led to complaints from Christians and left many non-Christians wondering what all the fuss was about.

"To take a generic term, slap it on a symbol that really only has significance to one religion..and then say we're being multicultural does not really fit," said Anita Bromberg of the Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada. "Whatever you call it, it's still a Christmas tree."

"You're not being inclusive when you try to apply one religious symbol to everybody. You call it what is."

Toronto has become the most multicultural city in Canada, with communities from around the world and residents who speak more than 100 different languages.

"I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve," Ahmed Shoker of the Canadian Islamic Congress in Saskatoon said on Monday. "Everyone has the full right to celebrate in their own way."

Toronto is not alone in its efforts to stress a holiday spirit rather than talking about Christmas.

The Royal Canadian Mint has a commercial in which it changes the old holiday standard "Twelve Days of Christmas" to "Twelve Days of Giving." But Mint spokesman Phil Taylor said the wording was merely meant to "position coins as a great gift for the holidays for whatever faith."

"It's the same kind of over the top political correctness," said Bernie Farber, Ontario executive director of the Canadian Jewish Congress. "There seems to be a fear within certain circles in Canada that people are going to react to Christmas in a negative way. But it's not the case.

"It's time to sort of get on with life, accept everybody for who they are and revel in their holidays as opposed to look for ways to deny people's holidays. It's just plain silly."


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To: Vinnie
Wal-Mart actually uses the word Christmas to describe some products.
21 posted on 11/28/2002 8:08:35 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: RightField
I never realized how wide spread this political correctness has spread. How sad.
22 posted on 11/28/2002 11:55:05 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Restorer; RightField; All
Some trace the origins of political correctness to Chinese communist leader Mao Tse-Tung


23 posted on 11/28/2002 11:58:02 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Restorer
Uhhh. Can anybody point out something specifically Christian about the Christmas tree?

When Northern Europeans converted to Christianity, they kept the custom of the evergreen - because it stayed green and alive in Winter. This practice became part of the Christmas celebration. They also liked to adorn the tree with apples and candles - now our ornaments and lights.

24 posted on 11/28/2002 12:01:27 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: beaversmom
FemSpeak (AKA Political Correctness)
25 posted on 11/28/2002 12:02:11 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: MasonGal
I looked through the ads in the paper today and was shocked to see so many stores open today. Even the gym was packed today. I was glad Kroger was open though when I woke up and found that my dinner rolls turned moldy overnight.
26 posted on 11/28/2002 12:05:13 PM PST by muggs
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To: Salvation; billbears; patent; fatima; JMJ333; amom; Alamo-Girl; Coleus; Cap'n Crunch; ...
Political Correctness can never erase this.


27 posted on 11/28/2002 12:08:45 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The Origins of Political Correctness


28 posted on 11/28/2002 12:09:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RightField
I'd be interested in the results of your survey. Could you post and/or freepmail me?

FP

29 posted on 11/28/2002 12:12:31 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: gcruse
Calling the truth 'drivel' is a liberal tactic.

It is drivel. Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. The winter solstice, or whatever the pc crowd and the ACLU insists we "stole" it from is a completely different festival.

Europeans who used to celebrate their pagan festival began to celebrate the birth of Jesus at the same time. The Church of Rome decided to celebrate the Birth at this time.

30 posted on 11/28/2002 12:13:26 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Last year Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert dedicated the "Holiday Tree" on the west lawn of the Capitol Building. I have the video captures from C-SPAN to prove it. Where was your indignation then?
31 posted on 11/28/2002 12:25:02 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Dennis Hastert last Christmas Holiday speaking at the lighting of the "Holiday Tree" on the Capitol grounds.


32 posted on 11/28/2002 12:54:31 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
I didn't have indignation then because it was simply impossible as I did not see nor hear or know about it.

This is nonsensical, stupid, political correctness as all of the various world wide known religions are represented in symbolic ways at the White House during various State dinners showing protocol to the visiting guest. And are all probably represented in some way in the WH during Christmas time. So why Hyde did not say 'Christmas tree' is beyond me.

33 posted on 11/28/2002 12:54:44 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: marshmallow
This past week in the mail I received a magazine type "Holiday Viewing Guide" from Channel 2 in Nashville. It was six or eight pages, with articles on and by the news anchors, etc. The word "Christmas" was nowhere to be found.

Yesterday, I called the promotions director at the station and told her I received their Holiday Viewing Guide, and asked exactly what holiday it was for...Memorial Day, Fourth of July, what? She replied, "Thanksgiving and Christmas." I asked, "Why didn't you say so? Are you people so stupefied by political correctness that you can't even use the word Christmas?" She said, "I don't know what you want me to say." I told her I didn't want her to say anything, I wanted her to catch on." Needless to say, she didn't. Bless her poor black heart...I couldn't tell her I'd never watch her station again. I haven't watched it in years, already!

34 posted on 11/28/2002 12:58:09 PM PST by babylonian
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The President and First Lady reading Christmas Holiday stories to children at the WhiteNon-Colored House last Christmas Holiday.


35 posted on 11/28/2002 12:58:35 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Will you write to the White House and let them know how you feel? Or are you less offended because Bush, Hastert, and the Republicans are in on this as well?


36 posted on 11/28/2002 1:01:46 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

37 posted on 11/28/2002 1:03:23 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
Less offended? That is the second time you have presumed to think for me in accusation. It is unneccessary. Your cause, case, and point are blocked-out with this type of automatic presumption.
38 posted on 11/28/2002 1:07:13 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
You called it "Communism" in large type when you thought it was just something those lefty Canadians would do. Now you can see it goes to the top of the Republican leadership and you have suddenly become less offended. I guess it's OK if Bush and Hastert do it.
39 posted on 11/28/2002 1:11:36 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
The coming ice age...political entropy(rot)---from the north/east!
40 posted on 11/28/2002 1:13:14 PM PST by f.Christian
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